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Important Information concerning access to PSA parts data

by xantia_v6 » 19 Mar 2020, 05:19 » in Forum News, Announcements and Issues
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As some of you may already have realised, PSA (Citroen, Peugeot & DS Automobiles) have this week (from 16/03/2020) decided to close off free access to parts information.

The public version of PSA's ServiceBox, which is the official source for parts and information has had a freely accessible parts system for registered garages, and individual...

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Thanks Steve
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27 Mar 2020, 22:50
New PSA Heritage Parts for Classic Cars

by GiveMeABreak » 11 Oct 2019, 16:18 » in Citroën

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Parts for Classic / Older Citroen, Peugeot Renault Vehicles

This may be of interest to Members with older vehicles where getting parts is a struggle and for those not already aware of the site.

PSA are embarking on a project to provide some supplies of original and re manufactured parts for older vehicles and classics, and have made it a...

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I'm trying them for anything showing up as NFP now.
Sometimes hit lucky.

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24 Jan 2020, 17:49
Revised Easydiagnostics Discount Procedure

by GiveMeABreak » 03 May 2018, 17:22 » in Forum News, Announcements and Issues

Please note that there is a new procedure in place for members wishing to take advantage of a 15% discount off products from Easydiagnostics.

The old discount code that was entered into the checkout is no longer valid, as a result of the code being propagated over the Internet.

After discussions with Jim from ED today, we have agreed a new...

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03 May 2018, 17:22
Member Email Addresses

by GiveMeABreak » 13 Oct 2017, 18:06 » in Forum News, Announcements and Issues

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To All Members

Members are kindly requested to check their profiles to see if their email addresses are current and please update these where necessary.

Some of our members have noted that email sent to others on the forum are bouncing back as unrecognised. We appreciate that people change their email providers / addresses over time and don't...

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Please remove me from the list,

Mike
Done.

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10 Nov 2018, 22:01

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Guide to Replacing the NG4 Navidrive 3D Hard Drive with a CF Card

by GiveMeABreak » 28 Mar 2017, 13:57
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A post from a member who has likely suffered a Hard Drive failure on his NG4 Navidrive 3D system has prompted me to re-double my efforts in finding a possible pre-emptive solution to Drive Failure. The same can be said of the RT4 system with a HDD, although these units seem to have more issues than the NG4. Although the principle is the same for...

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If I will put 2CF/IDE adapter + CF card in NG4, not work USB and DVD drive
Your firmware - copy in USB and SD card
Firmware on USB key - nothing happened
Firmware on SD card - internal error 0x3019 - 67%

I don't have the nerve (I burn my car, NG4, Garage, Notebook, CF card, Adapter - and I will be happy)

This is adapter is bad, not working CF...
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20 Mar 2020, 21:36
Fan speed icon

by Lacrosse » 08 Oct 2019, 19:33

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Hello guys

Does anyone know why after upgrading the firmware of my C5's NG4 unit to the latest version (n42c-42.03) the icon that indicates the speed of the blower fan disappeared and now it doesen's show? Did anyone experienced the same issue?
The blower is working properly, also the buttons that increase or decrease the speed of it. It only...

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Ok, that must be a coincidence as the NG4 has nothing to do with the Climate control unit - none of the readings or functions are related to the unit at all as the Climate ECU is a separate unit and will still function even if the NG4 unit is removed.

I suggest for now you just select the temperature you want and set it on AUTO and it will do...

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27 Oct 2019, 01:10
NG4 resets/restarts every 1,5 minutes

by mrkijo » 24 Aug 2019, 14:46

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Dear Community,

thank you in advance for your attempt to help. Here is problem i have Peugeot 3008 2011 with NG4 device with the firmware NG4_D_N42c_N42.03. so what i did is i have tried to have map updated to maps that i found on internet apparently 2018-2. Update was interrupted few times with error but each time continued from the point of...

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I cloned my hard drive (to save it from wear) and use an SD Card now with IDE adapter and have less issues and faster start up.

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25 Oct 2019, 12:01
RT4 to NG4

by Martin1980 » 28 Mar 2018, 16:47

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Hi, everyone. I find a cheap NG4 with display system. So my question is can I change my RT4 system with NG4.

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I change only the lcd screen. The ECU is the same.

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20 Mar 2019, 22:43
Android app to read notifications on the NG4

by nico06 » 30 Nov 2018, 15:05

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Dear All,

As mentioned in this other subject here is a quick post on my experience searching apps that read on the car speaker notification from my Android phone (a Chinese oukitel-no-name, I am not really into the hype phone). The NG4 seems to have only the bluetooth profiles to act as a phone handsfree / headset. So we cannot play music, read...

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It might be Google maps and the App specifically with frequent voice instructions - so may have more or less kept the HF going so no music.

It's at least an alternative if you are desperately in need of Sat Nav though.

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02 Dec 2018, 15:10
NG4 Navidrive 3D Map Updates

by GiveMeABreak » 06 Jun 2018, 23:29
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Less than that now in terms of support too. I can give you a recent example where the NG4 Navidrive was available to order up to and including 2014. PSA have not and are unlikely to commission HERE for any future map updates. The current one is 2016-2 which contains 2015 data! So 2 years and obsolete. Disgusting.

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MyWay is in the same boat as NG4 and it won't be too far on when RT6 support fizzles out too. This being down to the horrible touch screen affairs that they are shoving into the newer models that use mobile apps and subscription services that need 3G / 4G data to work - so if you live in the country / rural areas with limited mobile signal, yet...
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20 Jun 2018, 20:16
NG4 Is there any battery inside?

by ZarkoM » 15 Nov 2017, 15:43

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I have 7 years old NG4 in my P308. In last days I noticed that after swithing on the unit, clock on my NG4 is reset to 01:00 and display of clock is flashing. This happens usually when I do not use a car for a day or two. After receiving GPS signal, clock is correct again but still flashing until I confirm via SETUP.

I am quite sure that car...

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Definitely no backup battery, as all the data is stored on the hard disk and in the flash memory. The only battery is in the services module as I mentioned before for emergency powering of the speaker, the microphone and for the actual emergency call.

I still suggest you try a reset of the unit, and if you still have problems a factory reset....

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10 Mar 2018, 10:27
C5 Navidrive cuts off

by Zdriver938 » 17 Feb 2018, 09:37

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My c5 navidrive stops service as it heats up : it stops telephone then CD player then reduces the volume to half and in all of these the reason displayed is to reduce unit temperature and if I carry on driving the following message is displayed: unit will shut down to prevent any damage. If anyone had this problem please let me know
The dealer I...

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Hi and welcome.

Do you have the NG4 (Navidrive 3D) or the RT4 system?
The pictures for each are in the Audio & Telematics Main page here and will be the second or the third picture.

If you have the NG4 (Navidrive 3D) the system is likely going into backup mode because of the temperature inside the unit. The official causes are listed as:...

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17 Feb 2018, 10:29
Ng4

by Malazyy » 16 Apr 2017, 18:05

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Hello every
I am a new member in this nice forum
Could any one help me with my problem
I have citroen c5 exclusive 2009
I have just bought from the net complete set of navidrive-3d-multimediaNg4 with the display and complete wires needed I followed the installation process but the screen is blank it gives no data just gives black screen and the...

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Sorry - only just seen this post.

The NG4 system is dependent on having the correct equipment other than the head unit and also must be VIN coded AND configured to the vehicle using Diagbox / Lexia.
The NG4 is designed to work with the MDS Service module, which is linked to the Microphone and the Head unit via the CAN system. So unless you got...

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23 Oct 2017, 14:26
iPhone support

by Quackers » 14 Aug 2017, 18:28

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Can you connect an iPhone to the USB port to play music on this system? Reading the manual i'm not sure its just bad with its terminology , I'm doing something wrong, i need a newer firmware to do it or it just cannot be done.

It says connecting an iPod, and an iPhone with the Music player acts like an iPod on other devices like my home cinema...

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Can't be done - the USB will charge the phone and will play WMA and MP3 files on an actual USB stick directly, but will not play files from an iPhone's music library. You can also use the SD card in the Navidrive 3D to play the same - which is what I do.

You can connect video or audio sources to the AUX socket in the glovebox - and select this as...

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14 Aug 2017, 19:17
Installing map updates to Navidrive NG4 (C5, 2009)

by splinternet » 04 Jun 2017, 12:23

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I have a set of discs to update my maps. Basic question - how/where do I load them? The obvious place seems to be where I insert an audio CD, are there any other slots? But when I start the installation (step 1: firmware upgrade with the supplied CD) after about a minute I get a message Read error - source cannot be played . If I skip the firmware...

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Righto RT4. All the firmware is supplied as standard with the OFFICIAL map updates as part of the package, bot OP has got a used kit with some of the discs missing it seems. I think he's sorted for the firmware now, fingers crossed on the map update now!

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05 Jun 2017, 19:07
Navidrive 3D

by hoggers » 18 Jan 2017, 21:53
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Hi there

I've just bought a 2010 C5 Exclusive and I have a problem with the SAT NAV. It works but does not show the correct location. The recption says 'poor' and satalites say 0 which i'm guessing has something to do with the antenna.

Anyone had a similar issue that can help resolve it? VIN is VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

Thanks
Ben

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You don't even need to fit a stick on gps antenna. Just get one from a scrap car and then fit it behind the screen as there is enough space for one and the cabling. I've done it a few times with double sided tape to stick it all down and have the antenna facing the correct way as well.

It's also good for when retro fitting to vehicles without nav...
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26 Apr 2017, 07:27
Ng4 Stereo

by Bonger1969 » 24 Mar 2017, 18:24

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Hi guys I'm new to the forum and hope someone can help me out. Does anyone know the facial diamensions of the ng4 unit. Not the surround of the whole facia but just the stereo face. I want to fit a double din stereo to my c5 x7 and need to know if one fits in the slot where the ng4 goes,
Cheers guys. Bill Williams

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Something on the lines of this.hope you can see image..

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25 Mar 2017, 15:14
2011 C5 Tourer multifunction screen

by Dublin_C5 » 01 Mar 2017, 16:13
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Hi All
The multifunction screen on my 2011 C5 suddenly stopped working throwing up the following screen message
SYSTEM CHECK IN PROGRESS.PLEASE WAIT,DO NOT TURN OFF ENGINE FOR 25 MINS.
I did this but the screen keeps giving the same message.I now have no radio,sat nav,bluetooth etc
Can anyone share any info or advice on this problem please
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That's great news Alan. I knew that the Clarion service centre had a contract to repair the Magneti Marelli units, but wasn't sure about the NG4s. I knew it was about 500 Euros a while back in France for repairs - so seems about right. Hopefully they will have updated it to the latest firmware for you too. I'm in the process of writing up about...
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20 Mar 2017, 23:00
Multi Media

by hoggers » 21 Jan 2017, 19:28

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Sorry for all the questions but i've just tried uploading some music from my USB. I select 'copy all' files. There are three folders with an equivalent of a CD of tracks on each. However, it only seems to copy the first folder and not the other two despite selecting them all. Also how do you delete a folder -- i've looked in the manual and then on...

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There's a very good reason for it - the NG4 system doesn't support Bluetooth music streaming! It does just about everything else though, hence why I suggested it. You have to remember this was a 2008/9 system and probably designed a few years previous to that, so they can't support every future development of Bluetooth. They did provide several...

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22 Jan 2017, 04:48
C5 Jukebox problem with track order

by splinternet » 22 Apr 2016, 14:49

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When copying (ripping?) CDs to the Jukebox of my C5 Mk III 59-plate, for some CDs it picks up the name of each track, whereas for others it doesn't (it calls them Track1, Track2, etc...). Whilst with the latter it stores the tracks in the same order they're in on the CD (although you don't know the name of the tracks), annoyingly and puzzlingly,...

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Of course the other great thing with the SD card is there are no moving parts - so with less disk activity, the unit should remain cooler. You just have to play a DVD and see how hot the unit gets! Regarding the SD card - I have a 32GB SD HC in there and haven't managed to fill half this yet. I haven't tried anything bigger, but don't see an issue...

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23 Apr 2016, 13:43
NG4 Navidrive 3D 7 Digit Postcode Issues

by GiveMeABreak » 16 Nov 2015, 16:08
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I've spent some considerable time hunting the net and various Forums (or Fora!) for some definitive info on getting the NG4 Navidrive 3D system to accept 7 digit Postcodes.
This is the system in question in my C5 X7, but there is a similar one installed in some Peugeot vehicles ...

I got in contact with 'Here' maps, formerly Navteq, who make...

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I feel another VAB-size topic coming on with this project!! :-D
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13 Apr 2016, 19:19
Citroen C5 NG4 Navidrive Not Working

by Arokh » 16 Feb 2016, 19:30

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Hi,
The NG4 navigation/radio thing on my car won't turn on anymore. It only lights up for a second. I tried placing a CD in it and it went in without any problems but now it's stuck inside. Lexia diagnosis couldn't get any response from it. The car is a Citroen C5 from 2010. Any idea on what might be wrong?

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Just to be clear (as some people do get confused between the units) is this the system you have ignoring the colours of course?

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If this is your unit you can try this reset which should not loose any information:
Hold the round-shaped volume / mute button (to the left of the large dial in the middle) AND...

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22 Feb 2016, 13:46
Connecting iPod 3rd Gen Touch to C5 Tourer 2011

by Jelly_Owner » 14 Jan 2016, 18:54

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Hello,

I have a 2011 C5 Exclusive with an NG4 Navidrive Unit and have my phone connected via Bluetooth, an SD card in the dash with music and a 32GB USB stick in the connector under the armrest, also for music. They all just work. But now I want to use a 32GB iPod Touch instead of the USB stick and either the iPod or the car isn't playing ball....

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Ditto, i use a terrastation pro to store all my files and 320 Kbps conversion but I do it all on the PC. Overall I'm very happy with the sound quality and performance of the unit. The only annoying thing is it will only read text messages from the internal phone and not your Bluetooth connected phone. As you can't get dual SIM cards now, I just...

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15 Jan 2016, 11:44
C5 X7 Aux sockets?

by qprdude » 24 Feb 2014, 17:27
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I'm computer literate in as much as I can build them, and install software and hardware if required, but for the life of me, I can't get to grips with MP3-4, Ipod and other audio stuff. My kids have speakers built into their houses that can be accessed by many sources from anywhere in the houses.

I am struggling to remember how to switch on the...

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More or less what I thought. I don't think I'll bother to be honest. Can't see me using it often enough. Can only use it while stationary so not a lot of use to me. As I have a 16 inch laptop I can use for the same purpose it's kind of redundant.
I don't think I had a choose video option, but after I get home from my London trip, I might have...
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03 Mar 2014, 20:53

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