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Important Information concerning access to PSA parts data

by xantia_v6 » 19 Mar 2020, 05:19 » in Forum News, Announcements and Issues
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As some of you may already have realised, PSA (Citroen, Peugeot & DS Automobiles) have this week (from 16/03/2020) decided to close off free access to parts information.

The public version of PSA's ServiceBox, which is the official source for parts and information has had a freely accessible parts system for registered garages, and individual...

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Thanks Steve
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27 Mar 2020, 22:50
New PSA Heritage Parts for Classic Cars

by GiveMeABreak » 11 Oct 2019, 16:18 » in Citroën

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Parts for Classic / Older Citroen, Peugeot Renault Vehicles

This may be of interest to Members with older vehicles where getting parts is a struggle and for those not already aware of the site.

PSA are embarking on a project to provide some supplies of original and re manufactured parts for older vehicles and classics, and have made it a...

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I'm trying them for anything showing up as NFP now.
Sometimes hit lucky.

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24 Jan 2020, 17:49
Revised Easydiagnostics Discount Procedure

by GiveMeABreak » 03 May 2018, 17:22 » in Forum News, Announcements and Issues

Please note that there is a new procedure in place for members wishing to take advantage of a 15% discount off products from Easydiagnostics.

The old discount code that was entered into the checkout is no longer valid, as a result of the code being propagated over the Internet.

After discussions with Jim from ED today, we have agreed a new...

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03 May 2018, 17:22
Member Email Addresses

by GiveMeABreak » 13 Oct 2017, 18:06 » in Forum News, Announcements and Issues

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To All Members

Members are kindly requested to check their profiles to see if their email addresses are current and please update these where necessary.

Some of our members have noted that email sent to others on the forum are bouncing back as unrecognised. We appreciate that people change their email providers / addresses over time and don't...

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Please remove me from the list,

Mike
Done.

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10 Nov 2018, 22:01

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C5 X7 RT4 - Fitting Factory Amplifier

by Fortius » 23 Feb 2020, 23:08
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Hi everyone! I've recently bought this HIFI system for my car. I have 4 woofer, 4 tweeters and the amplifier. I don't have the subwoofer. From the above diagram I've (almost) managed to understand which wire is which... However, I have the following questions:

1. Where do I connect CAN+, CAN High and VAN low?
2. Where do i connect the rear left...

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I did some tests today to see what the problem was and I came to the following conclusion:

- overall the system sounds good, quite loud, except the tweeters. There is a chance that the tweeters I bought are faulty.
- I replaced the front left and right tweeters of this system with the 2 tweeters from the Hertz Cento Pro system that I own and I...
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10 Mar 2020, 19:56
Navidrive RT4 8.31 update, no sound, Mirascripts

by melj » 01 Feb 2019, 16:10
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Navidrive RT4 8.31 update problem, no sound, Mirascripts

Greetings all, new member here,

My name is Mel, I live in Somerset and have a 2008 C5 (X7) Exclusive Tourer, 2.2 Hdi, 173BHP. I have been browsing the forum for some time and resolved various issues successfully so thanks to all the knowledgeable posters who have unknowingly assisted me....

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Hi Kalan - so you are having the same issue after the Firmware update as the first post in this thread. Your dealer (if Citroen) should know that the RT4 ECU needs downloading from PSA servers and as per your VIN should put the options back - and the technician should be able to check afterwards that the options are correct.

If they don't know...
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27 Feb 2020, 00:38
C5 X7 satnav display - can you turn it off?

by Peter.N. » 06 Feb 2020, 10:52

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I find it very distracting at night, I have lowered the illumination to the lowest level but it still bother's me. Can't find anything in the handbook - unless I have missed it, par for the course.

Peter

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Thanks once again Marc and ED and Paul. I don't think I could run these cars without your help. Never noticed that button or did and didn't know what it was for - like many others.

Peter

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06 Feb 2020, 21:41
Rt4 is dead after update, Black screen

by Sip » 04 Jan 2020, 13:38

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Hello, i try to update rt3 HDD(rt4) from 8.20 to 8.31. after flash system try to reboot and the radio is dead. The screen is Black, only Orange light is flashing on the radio panel under the sos Button. How can I repair this? Is it something wrong with HDD? Please, help

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Ok, thank You

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04 Jan 2020, 21:10
New to Pugs

by Tiago407sw16hdi » 28 Nov 2019, 19:50

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2008 407 SW 1.6 HDI

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I have a pug for the past 4 months and i am loving it. Very confortable amazing mpg, and not that expensive to fix. I have replaced all the injector seals, new disks and brakes both front cv joins 4 drop links several oil changes to clean the engine filters etc etc. My turbo wistles a bit (the chaft moves up and down but...

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Hello, and :welc: to the forum. It is safe to post the VIN on a thread, as the software will automatically obscure it so only Forum staff can read it.

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28 Nov 2019, 20:13
Peugeot RT4/5 Update Problem

by capelyddol » 23 Feb 2017, 17:43
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Hi
I'm not sure if this is the right forum to post this problem, I'm a newbie, but desperate for some help. Here's the problem: 2007 Peugeot 407sw recently purchased with original RT4/5 software (7.01) and maps. I obtained a genuine FW 8.31 disc and updated. All appeared to go well and the update completed with everything working - except the...

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Th CD lens on these units ages really quickly - not so bad for reading music files, but for data this can be really bad.

These older units don't have a USB, but I believe a cable can be obtained from the Peugeot dealers specifically (not Citroen). Depending on your existing firmware version you may have the USB functionality, but not for V7.*.

I...
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07 Nov 2019, 00:25
RT5 Question

by DHallworth » 20 Oct 2019, 11:41

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I’m looking for an RT5 unit for my newly acquired C6.

The RT5 in the C6 has a Sim Card slot and looks different from the RT5 in the C5 due to the layout of the buttons. Does anyone know if I’m searching for the wrong thing?

Other then the Peugeot logo on this picture below, the RT4 and 5 from the C6 both look the same....

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On my RT3 Navidrive with only the internal telephone and using my iPhone I did this:

Get a compatible SIM card and slot that into the RT4. Then on your mobile phone, create 2 contacts, let's say 'Car Divert' and 'Car Undivert'.
On the 'Car Divert' contact, enter **21* followed by the RT4's SIM card Telephone number and then a # e.g....

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20 Oct 2019, 14:34
C5 Esate bluetooth upgrade

by Andyh » 15 Aug 2019, 18:20

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Hello again,

After my recent family car write off and my Citroen C5 needing a lot of work I needed a car fast.
I found a C5 Estate 2.0Hdi auto Exclusive locally going for a song, ran out and got it.
Runs extremely well, but was confounded by the lack of bluetooth considering it is only 6 months older than my other C5 Exclusive.
Also not included...

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Right - Andy has another X7 with RT4 - I've deleted the previous posts as they are no longer relevant seeing as we were talking at crossed purposes about the RD4 in his original X7.

So the advice applies that I have already originally stated about using the divert tip to get your mobile calls on the RT4.

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17 Aug 2019, 14:07
C5 X7 rt4 , cd stuck inside

by Cristidica » 13 Jul 2019, 10:43

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Hello everyone, cd stuck inside the rt4 unit, has anyone had this problem before?

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So first thing happened when i tried to change the hard drive, the cd drive didn't work after that
I couldn't change the hard drive either, i used a ide44 pin to compact flash adaptor and a compact flash , actually 2 adaptors, i know what slave/master means
i put everything as it was
Cd player still dead
After 2 weeks or so the unit died
Now...

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03 Aug 2019, 20:55
Jukebox playlist editing etc.

by Jetjockey » 30 Jun 2019, 22:27

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Hello.

Does anybody know of a definitive guide to the use of the Jukebox and radio on the C5 X7.
What I’m particularly after is guidance on how to erase albums and tracks that have been copied to the Hard drive in the media unit. Some information on how to organise the folders on MP3 cd's would also be helpful together with instructions on how to...

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It will say 'Navidrive' clearly on the manual - but the PDF I have is the same that I've sent you a link so that you can download.

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02 Jul 2019, 11:05
RT4 Screen problem

by jml » 24 Apr 2019, 20:17
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Hi,

I’m fairly new to this so please be gentle ! I hope a picture or a link is attached which should show the screen problem I have got on the RT4 system on my 2008 C8 2.2 HDi 173.

The 1” band appeared first a year or so ago and comes up intermittently with no obvious cause. It has progressively got worse and is now permanently black.

Has...

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Yes, it's near a nature reserve IIRC. Worth knowing though and handy as it's near to you, so will save a bit on insurance and postage costs!
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30 Apr 2019, 14:44
RT4 to RT5 suspension height problem

by drumvlado » 02 Apr 2019, 13:26

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Hello all,
A bit of an awkward thing after I installed an RT5 from a 407 into my 2007 C5 replacing my RT4.
First I did the VIN coding with the lexia, and after it restarted it automatically switched to citroen themes etc. I did the rest of the telecoding pretty straight forward and it all seemed ok until I realized that no matter what suspension...

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Ok, issue resolved.
I was pretty sure this cannot be done with the lexia. Too few options there. I guess the initial programming of the RT units was carried in Magneti Marelli at a deeper level as the configuration files have few times more flags than you can edit with the lexia.
Anyway, I looked at the mirascripts to see if there is a flag...

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11 Apr 2019, 09:49
Magneti Marelli rt 4 problem

by Bibiqn » 23 Apr 2018, 19:23
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Hi guys.My name is Boyan and i'm from Bulgaria.Nice forum .I want help for my device.have a big trouble.The device go to reatart.I see only logo on the screen and then restart.I held up the 2 small white buttons for reset system.,then screen ask for upgrade cd
I put on the sw 8.31 but the system writes crc media .checking and do nothing
After some...

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The front panel/facade is interchangeable and the head unit behind is the same. If you have the old facade, it is a matter of 2 minutes to change them. You can do it without unplugging the head unit from the car, just sliding it forward few centimeters. And this is definitely an RT4 unit. There are 3 types of labels for that - RT3 X3-N3/ RT3ev and...
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03 Apr 2019, 13:26
RT4 software question

by Bandit12 » 31 May 2018, 19:08

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hi guys
I've fitted a USB to my RT4, burnt all my music to media player then put it all onto a USB stick. Only issue is that some of the music wont play as its a wma file instead of MP3. Is there a software update or setting for the RT4 that will overcome this? Alternative is to work out which albums are wma then re-rip etc.

Any advice is...

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Caution needs to be exercised though, as invariably these will not be original discs, but copies and the risk of bricking a unit increases significantly, potentially costing £000s to repair.

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02 Sep 2018, 18:51
Memory loss 2008 X7 Exclusive

by Majanor » 11 Aug 2018, 23:21
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Not me, someday soon!.
Need your help on this just changed from a 2003 Mk1 so not up to speed on X7 issues.
Problem is this. On turning on ignition and starting have no Sat nav, Radio and all associated systems until it all boots up and then everything is fine until you nip into a shop,for instance, and then have to go thru it all over again.If it...

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Phew, not much happening then!. Have noticed battery status unit on sons C4. Apparently a new battery was fitted recently as was to my mk1 C5, maybe a swop might be in order as my one is a known age (3mths) and quality.
Deeply in your debt for info, I do like to know how things work.😃
Amongst all the babble above, I completely forgot to mention...
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22 Aug 2018, 09:41
RT4 Amplifier Issues

by JIITEE » 13 Aug 2018, 01:31
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Help me please asap?! I have C5 2.7 hdi 2008 and yesterday i started To update car stereo system just add external amp. So what i did i add rt4 system To audioline converter. So i cut the speaker wires from unit To add converter To speakerline and when I put unit back in place blower and ac disappeared, no any control or power on temperature...

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Well, looks like car electrical components are totally ok, except: webasto relays cold be someway burned, ralays wont work like should. When i connect those wires (red circles) direct ac and blower works fine?! Really weird thing??!! What could burn those relays while installing wires?!! I have not touched those wires?? DSC.JPG
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14 Aug 2018, 19:41
Is this the right adaptor?

by Bandit12 » 09 Jan 2018, 22:03
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Hi, Just bought an X7 with an rt4 and another thread on this site advised a psa to usb cable part number 6574jh so I can plug in a usb flashdrive.
Had a bit of trouble finding one, is this suitable?

I also came across a hiccup when loading some music cds onto the jukebox harddrive. It wouldnt load them saying they were genuine cds and copying...

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That's great!

And yes, they're an absolute pleasure on the motorway; you arrive more relaxed than when you've set off :-D
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11 Aug 2018, 21:18
Rneg Myway to Navidrive

by goggi10 » 01 Apr 2018, 12:56

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Hi,
I have rneg system on my c5 can i update it to Navidrive (rt5) becausw i havw found one cheep. Will it be a problem to switch from rneg Myway to navidrive.

Thx

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Hard to say Elis without ripping the 2 apart and looking at the guts - but they no doubt had to rearrange some things to fit the Bluetooth module in and the different graphics chip maybe.

FM is a tricky one - sometimes around Cardigan Bay my FM is like listening to LW out at sea, (either that or the Russians are jamming me)! Other times further...

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01 Apr 2018, 20:12
RT4 Amplifier Compatibility

by djloui » 14 Feb 2018, 18:28
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Hello
This is my first post to this forum!
I have a Peugeot 308 GT 2008 with a RT4.
I putted an amplifier that was faulty and I damaged my source! :(
My electrician cannot find any guide to fix this problem and I am very sad about this!
I think my only option is to buy a new/used one...
Do you have any suggestions?
Thank you in advance!

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So you have MyWay then not RT6! That will explain it. I thought you were referring to the eMyWay. Do as Elis says, the content has to be right for it to be recognised.
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25 Feb 2018, 00:56
DAB for C5 X7

by Bandit12 » 14 Jan 2018, 11:19

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This forum is brilliant! So many helpful interesting and sometimes plain hilarious posts. Thank you all and long may it continue.
On the subject of DAB I want to keep the RT4 but do miss planet rock. Anyone tried one of those DAB adapter things?

Bandit

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I've split this off into the telematics section Bandit - as it helps others locate relevant info more easily. :wink:

The Citroen offerings were the AutoDAb and EZI-DAB systems. Basically the same as the Alpine systems. There are 2 choices - an add-on unit (the EZIDAB) that sticks out the dash separately controlled (a bit naff if you like the OEM...

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14 Jan 2018, 12:09
RT4 Intermittent sound

by MikeC100 » 31 Aug 2017, 13:48

I have a Peugeot 407 Coupe 2.7 TDI with intermittent audio sound from my RT4. The Display, satnav etc work fine without any dimming or interruption and there is no problem with the RT4 head or connectors i can see on removal. The system has a factory fitted amp in the boot so the audio sound signal goes first to the boot and back. I need to know...

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31 Aug 2017, 13:48
RT4 Problem

by oliverv » 13 Jul 2017, 16:44

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Dear friends please help me,

I am the new owner of Peugeot 407 with the rt4 system.
I have the problem with maps updating.
When I inesrt the CD it all start OK Identifying CD>would you like to restart to install the new version (or something like that), and than there I got
a problem. CD eject and I got a massage cd damaged or incomplete . It is...

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Ive an rt3 in my 407, I bought a new disc, it loads fine, but I dont use it. I much prefer using my little 4 year old garmin satnav. Its easier to use taking post codes that the rt3 wont.

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13 Jul 2017, 18:32
Turn Off 'Emergency Numbers Deactivated' Screen

by capelyddol » 24 Apr 2017, 13:39

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Since updating the software on my RT4/5 I have this most annoying message pop-up every time I start the car. It reads, Emergency Numbers Deactivated. I have to go into the menu, then press 'Esc' to get rid of it. I can't see any way to stop it appearing using pp2000, (though I may have missed it). Help me out, somebody. It's driving me nuts....

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Thanks very much, Marc. I'm on vacation in Britain right now but I'll give that a try when I get back home.

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13 May 2017, 15:26
rt5 sat nav

by adekee1 » 24 Mar 2017, 21:32

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Hello im new to the forum,hoping someone can help,I've got a 2009 407 with an rt5 sat nav,the screen showed to update but wouldn't take an upgrade,I waa told it could be the hard drive so I took the top off to have a look and somehow managed to tear the wire ribbon,after reading different forums it seems they do weaken on the fold,the problem has...

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Are you sure it's RT5? Does it have Bluetooth? If not its RT4

Although the same discs should work, the cables though are different

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25 Mar 2017, 21:31
RT4 activating AUX

by Filberton » 24 Oct 2016, 15:39

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I have a C5 with the RT4 head unit (and those 3 phono sockets in the glove box) but the unit menu does not show the AUX option on the screen. I am running Firmware 8.31
Presumably if Citroen fitted the sockets it must be possible?

Is it possible to activate either the AUX socket on the back of the unit or the glove box sockets so this option can...

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The first thing is to check that you have enabled the AUX option in the setup menu. I had to do this on my NG4 Navidrve 3D system first before it would be shown as an option in the Media Menu. I know you have a different system, but check about in the setup menus first - do you have a VIDEO menu in your setup screens? If so, try there first. If...

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24 Oct 2016, 15:44
RT4 Navidrive map update problem

by Lynswin » 29 Aug 2014, 21:25
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I have a 2007 Citroen C8 with an RT4 Navidrive system running software version 7.10.

The maps were outdated (2008/2009) so today I tried updating the maps with a CD of 2013/2014 maps.

The following is the sequence of events and the outcome! I'm hoping someone can shed some light on the situation and help!

With my engine running I inserted the...

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Mike - I'm sure if you forced a clean boot from CD 8.31 it would set everything back. It's absolutely critical that you get your firmware updated before a map update that requires it. I cannot understand why you didn't get the 8.31 firmware upgrade with the maps if you bought these - they are usually supplied. I can vouch for this on the NG4...
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15 Feb 2016, 18:22
Sat Nav update

by centurus2400 » 15 Dec 2014, 09:15

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So, I've now got the latest RT4/5 DVD to update my sat nag. What I don't have are the instructions on how to carry out this operation.
Do I just stuff the disc in and hope for the best :shock: or is there a set procedure that I need to follow?
Any info gratefully received.

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The only unit that's declared as Navidrive 3D should be the NG4 (that huge double din one, with a big round dial in the middle) ... what you have is just Navidrive (not 3D)

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15 Dec 2014, 16:50
c5 sat navigation screen

by scottspark » 12 Nov 2014, 11:52
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Hi new to the forum. I was driving along the other day listing to music then I noticed the sat navigation screen flickered and just went blank. I pulled over and flicked through the modes and the screen changes through the different modes as you can see different colour lights appearing but no display.
Any ideas on a fix for this. I've been...

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I think it's about time Citroen paid you for being their parts look up man Richard! :rofl2:
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13 Nov 2014, 16:05
Citroen C5 Audio problems

by Aryo » 14 Feb 2014, 14:26

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Hi Guys,

I have a Citroen C5 2.0 HDI Exclusive with NaviDrive (not the 3D). The audio systems does something weird I couldn't find out why.

The audio on the left side sound good. On the right side the volume is slightly lower than on the left side. After a while the volume
on the right side goes equal to the left. After a while again, the volume...

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Thanks.

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17 Feb 2014, 11:46

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