C3 Picasso Clutch Issues

[Huskyxantia]

Its a bit confusing Jim when you read its gravity that bleeds these .. id say with a little help from , this..

Pressurise the sytem then pull out clip net to nipple pull fluid feed pipe part out let fluid out keep fluid bowl topped up , if air is in the system your see it in the pipe connected to the bleed nipple & collection bottle. Sounds like a plan to me.

[CitroJim]

Yes, that would do the job.. A bit like to old Gunsons Eezi-Bleed system that used pressure from the spare wheel to achieve the same... It worked rather well...

[Huskyxantia]

Mick that is a brillant idea and i will certainly do it . Seeing how cheap looking these pipes look i reckon there must be some perishing going on somewhere.

[Huskyxantia]

Yes, that would do the job.. A bit like to old Gunsons Eezi-Bleed system that used pressure from the spare wheel to achieve the same... It worked rather well...

seen someone on youtube do that , works a treat. Im getting rather excited now to get out to the car lol but its dark & my teas almost ready so in the morning the task will be slowly set in motion.




If not shall i get a nisssan cashcow ?

[mickthemaverick]

A bit like to old Gunsons Eezi-Bleed system that used pressure from the spare wheel to achieve the same... It worked rather well...

Still does, I have it in the garage as my goto bleeder!!

[myglaren]

Bleeding .

1. 2 man one opens the nipples while other pumps pedal
2. 1 man , using vaccume procedure.
3. Combo of 1&2
4 give up .... go electric ...

On none-hydropneumatic cars I have found these to be a very simple and effective solution, only needs one person to operate it.

Embarrassingly cheap.

[Huskyxantia]

Ive seen something like this its a one way valve thing isnt it. I had a pipe with a ball bearing in a plastic end which let fluid out then close by the ball closing the hole.

[Huskyxantia]

Sometimes simple is best.

[Huskyxantia]

Love this site it can be useful , but also out dated for some
https://www.wikihow.com/Bleed-a-Slave-Cylinder
Might be useful for someone so ive popped the link here.

[CitroJim]

Ive seen something like this its a one way valve thing isnt it. I had a pipe with a ball bearing in a plastic end which let fluid out then close by the ball closing the hole.

That's it... Got one here. The trick to get the best out of it is to have the one way valve submerged at all times in a jar of clean brake fluid... Then, rather than any tendency to suck air, it'll suck fluid instead...

[Huskyxantia]

Ddclutch has a sort of part clutch bleed thread going on which relates to here.

viewtopic.php?t=76429
might be useful for someone one day.

Keywords * painintheharsec3picassosillyclutchdesign. #plastic with heavy load to bear

[Huskyxantia]

Todays findings .

First thing i did was made sure the fluid level was topped up ,it was
Then i popped the master cylinder plunger back onto the clutch pedal
I then fitted clear pipe onto the slave cylinder bleed point , made sure the clutch pedal was fully up, unclipped the clip next to the bleed outlet pipe in the slave then pulled the pipe to allow the air & fliud to run out. It came out down the tube into my bottle with some fluid in and pipe submerged , then the fluid ran clear. Fluid pipe to slave cylinder then pushed back home and the clip also pushed home to, i went to try the pedal , met with a hissing sound and hardly no pedal , then pedal laid flat to floor.

So wiper scuttle panel off, air box out , BINGO , Master cylinder supply pipe
Was leaking at the master cylinder connection point. So i pulled this off , no effort at all & ive poked it into the fluid filler bowl so it dont leak.

So this is drawing in air everytime the clutch is being used ,possible car movement & vibration wont help a week spot either.

[Huskyxantia]

This is a possible cause

[Huskyxantia]

The fluid feed pipe end didnt look to healthy to be honest.

[Huskyxantia]

A bodge fix with these...