Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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I want to bleed the clutch on my C3 Picasso.
The problem is I cannot see any release valve on the slave cylinder. It has the outlet spigot, with a little rubber protecter but doesn't seem to have a nut or lever to open up a valve.
What am I missing here please?

Its a 2011 car, petrol, 1598cc
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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There can be 2 systems of bleeding depending on which type you have.

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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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I shall try to remember the procedure.. had to do this on mine, but you'll have to wait until I'm not high as a kite later on!

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Ddclutch
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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Its just odd having a bleed nipple but no apparent valve to open!
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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There are 2 systems as I said earlier, 1 is a double clip bleed system and the other a screw bleed system.
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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So you delete my last message?
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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We had a C3 with the double clip bleed system and it was not as easy to use as a normal bleed screw that is undone a bit. The clip system involves moving clips and pulling the pipe out a bit and letting fluid run out. I was never certain if the slave cylinder was bled fully doing this. With the normal bleed screw I find it best to suck the fluid through using a Mityvac pump but a large syringe would probably do.
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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Ddclutch wrote: 21 Oct 2023, 13:49 So you delete my last message?
? Your messages are above, so not sure what you are referring to.
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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Sorry, there was another just prior ,to your message, which appeared briefly, then disappeared after you posted yours.
paulC5's message more or less confirms what I wrote about the double clip system
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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If another member has actually submitted a new post whilst you are still composing a message, you will get a warning in case you want to review the other member's post before submitting your own. Be careful here as if you select the wrong option it will close your post and you will lose it. If you choose to post, it will just post your response as normal.
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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Maybe something like that then. Though I didnt see anything about reviewing it.
I doesnt matter.
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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The bleed process is weird, mines double clip , when i did mine it didnt bleed well , it worked when i screwed the filler cap on then i had pressure. But ive seen people bleed with the brake fluid reservior open & its been fine. I like the idea of sucking the fluid out with large syringe , no pedal to pump just pull the syringe out comes the fluid bubbles too then clear fluid seems faster and a one man job, or am i wrong.

The 2 clip bleeding , is it open clip next to nipple, push pedal down , clip back in , pedal back up, clip out , pedal down , clip in over and over till clear fluid runs out, or, pump till pedal gets firm ? Open clip, whoosh out comes air and fluid ?
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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You can see why people get confused about the bleeding task ,
Press on the clip (2) and pull on the hydraulic pipe (3) over approximately 5 mm to free the bleed aperture (In the direction of the arrow
"a").
Allow the brake fluid to flow out by gravity until there are no air bubbles.
Push in the hydraulic pipe (3) to close the bleed orifice (In the opposite direction to the arrow "a").
Fill the brake fluid reservoir to its maximum capacity.

Now mentions gravity ! So what is it , push pedal 2 man job, undo clip next to nipple let mother nature do it, vaccum tool to pressurise the system then do the clip then let mither nature do her thing ? Good luck
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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On our C3 with the 2 clip system when just changing the fluid I did not do any pedal pushing - it would run under gravity but I also used the vacuum pump on the bleed nipple to try to make sure fluid went through the slave since I thought it might just be running out of the pipe. I think it is a poorly designed system, maybe cheaper than a slave without 2 clips, why else would it have been designed.
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Re: Bleeding C3 Picasso clutch

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PaulC5 wrote: 02 Dec 2024, 21:29I think it is a poorly designed system, maybe cheaper than a slave without 2 clips, why else would it have been designed.
You're right Paul, it'll all be about cheap :evil:
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