Sinker xantia scrap or keep, bosch fuel pump issues...

[xantia_v6]

As per previous post and photos my Xantia has no FDV.

Is this the previous post you refer to? viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40094&p=365488&hilit=fdv#p365488

I don't understand how a Xantia can have a single outlet pump and power steering without an FDV? Where does the power steering get its hydraulic supply?

[CitroJim]

Phil, great to see this one's still going

As per previous post and photos my Xantia has no FDV.

Is this the previous post you refer to? viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40094&p=365488&hilit=fdv#p365488

I don't understand how a Xantia can have a single outlet pump and power steering without an FDV? Where does the power steering get its hydraulic supply?

There were some very rare early Xantias with no PAS but I believe these were all 1.6 models and never imported into the UK...

So, on that basis I'd be quite sure yours has... Look near to the pressure regulator/accumulator sphere for a small block with four pipes... That will be the FDV..

Also, you can often hear it hissing when steering

[Mandrake]

Also, you can often hear it hissing when steering

On my mums Xantia sinker (now gone to the scrapyard in the sky) all the way from the neighbours house.

[CitroJim]

Also, you can often hear it hissing when steering

On my mums Xantia sinker (now gone to the scrapyard in the sky) all the way from the neighbours house.

On mine everybody that knew me and my car could hear me coming from miles away!

[myglaren]

The clicks and hisses were always a source of amusement for me. Loved them.

[aerodynamica]

Phil, great to see this one's still going

As per previous post and photos my Xantia has no FDV.

Is this the previous post you refer to? viewtopic.php?f=3&t=40094&p=365488&hilit=fdv#p365488

I don't understand how a Xantia can have a single outlet pump and power steering without an FDV? Where does the power steering get its hydraulic supply?

There were some very rare early Xantias with no PAS but I believe these were all 1.6 models and never imported into the UK...

So, on that basis I'd be quite sure yours has... Look near to the pressure regulator/accumulator sphere for a small block with four pipes... That will be the FDV..

Also, you can often hear it hissing when steering

Hey Jim, I think you're right there - I went to see a 1.9 TD VSX for sale in Yorkshire 3-4 years back and it was Mk1 in every way (chevrons on bonnet, no airbag, even had the early distinctive headlight pattern) but had the 2 - output pump and antisink. So I walked away

5 pipes to-from FDV, another give away is that the regulator BIG return rubber pipe on an FDV car is weirdly a tiny, clear pipe the same as those leak off pipes on height correctors and the like.

Also! contrary to things I've read, the FDV on BX and XM/Xantia is not the same!

[CitroJim]

Hey Jim, I think you're right there - I went to see a 1.9 TD VSX for sale in Yorkshire 3-4 years back and it was Mk1 in every way (chevrons on bonnet, no airbag, even had the early distinctive headlight pattern) but had the 2 - output pump and antisink. So I walked away

Another one! Paul (CitroenXM) had one exactly like that, a black one... We both thought it was the only one - a real oddity - but it seems not

[Mandrake]

Hey Jim, I think you're right there - I went to see a 1.9 TD VSX for sale in Yorkshire 3-4 years back and it was Mk1 in every way (chevrons on bonnet, no airbag, even had the early distinctive headlight pattern) but had the 2 - output pump and antisink. So I walked away

Anti-sink was introduced in December 1993. The Chevrons didn't move from the bonnet to the grill until early 1995. So any 1994 Xantia will be anti-sink but with Chevrons on the bonnet. My Dad's 1994 Xantia was like this.

[ekjdm14]

Hey Jim, I think you're right there - I went to see a 1.9 TD VSX for sale in Yorkshire 3-4 years back and it was Mk1 in every way (chevrons on bonnet, no airbag, even had the early distinctive headlight pattern) but had the 2 - output pump and antisink. So I walked away

Another one! Paul (CitroenXM) had one exactly like that, a black one... We both thought it was the only one - a real oddity - but it seems not

Now this is something I've not noted before, how did the earlier headlamps differ & up until when were they used please?

[CitroJim]

how did the earlier headlamps differ & up until when were they used please?

They were vaguely similar to the elderly glow-worms seen in the RHD XMs... Very poor...

They look the same as later S1 headlights and swappable; that's something needing to be done if not already done...

In my experience they are so dim and poor they border on dangerous (like XM headlights) even when fitted with bright bulbs...

[ekjdm14]

Hmm, that sounds a lot like the units on Black... Did they run up till late '95 at all?

They're worse than the XM in my honest opinion, certainly on main beam anyway... Good bulbs and switched through relays and still not up to par... Maybe I ought to compare them to White and see if we've got them for some reason.

[aerodynamica]

Hey Jim, I think you're right there - I went to see a 1.9 TD VSX for sale in Yorkshire 3-4 years back and it was Mk1 in every way (chevrons on bonnet, no airbag, even had the early distinctive headlight pattern) but had the 2 - output pump and antisink. So I walked away

Another one! Paul (CitroenXM) had one exactly like that, a black one... We both thought it was the only one - a real oddity - but it seems not

Now this is something I've not noted before, how did the earlier headlamps differ & up until when were they used please?

Hi, sorry about the delay. Yes the very first Xantias have a much heavier pattern in the glass - quite a distinct look. It really does also correspond to the low performance of the early lights. Jim is right, the later Mk1 glass swaps with these very first ones - the headlight is identical in every way except the glass. I'll try and find a photo of the early pattern versus the later more common Mk1. My Xantia has its early headlights as standard although it had the later type fitted - I swapped them back! Why? because I quite like the look of the proper early patttern even if the output on dip isn't great (I don't find them too bad to be honest) I just want my Mk1 sinker to be almost pure! (.......except for the peugeot wheels... )

[aerodynamica]

Here's a (bad) photo of Auld Katy (viewed from a 2CV) with the correct early Mk1 RHD lights. You can see the distinctive heavy patterns in the glass - deleted from later (possibly 1995?) cars.
20170812_132737 by Graeme McNulty, on Flickr

Not sure how clear it is but here's a pic of the same car taken by the previous owner, with the later, incorrect Mk1 lights
image1 by Graeme McNulty, on Flickr

[myglaren]

I had an early 'sinker' Xantia and didn't have a problem with the lights other than being aware that the GS lights were better.

It could have been that for many years I was used to working in the dark for up to fourteen hours a day (photographic darkrooms) and in the winter (Sweden) there was no daylight to speak of anyway, so used to very little in the way of illumination.

Even now I walk around the house at night with no lights on.

My Xantia (an 'N' reg) was identical to yours. I loved the colour but was on my own there.

Tried to upload a photo but they are too big, will have to GIMP them

[aerodynamica]

I had an early 'sinker' Xantia and didn't have a problem with the lights other than being aware that the GS lights were better.

It could have been that for many years I was used to working in the dark for up to fourteen hours a day (photographic darkrooms) and in the winter (Sweden) there was no daylight to speak of anyway, so used to very little in the way of illumination.

Even now I walk around the house at night with no lights on.

My Xantia (an 'N' reg) was identical to yours. I loved the colour but was on my own there.

Tried to upload a photo but they are too big, will have to GIMP them

Steve, everyone hates the gold paint job - even DVLA, they say it's beige

It's easily my favourite Xantia colour