Citroen synergie 2002 speedometer problem

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Citroen synergie 2002 speedometer problem

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Morning forum I have just acquired a 2002 Citroen synergie 2.0 hdi which has a speedometer problem in as much as there are no actual total miles showing in the display but trip counter works. When you hit the trip reset button it seems to kill the whole speedometer and nothing works for around 10 mins.

Any help or advice would be grateful

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Re: Citroen synergie 2002 speedometer problem

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We'll need a VIN, there are different models with different displays - some with 4 dials, some with 5.

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vin VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]


thank you in advance

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We'll need a VIN, there are different models with different displays - some with 4 dials, some with 5.

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Perfect. So this is a Synergie Family Saloon 2.0 HDi 110 (DW10ATED) with manual gearbox 5.

Is the speedometer needle moving according to speed? Is the speedo needle intermittently failing or erratic? If it is then likely to be the speedo cable or either of the end connections possibly worn.

This should be your display:
Synergie Dash.PNG

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Hi the needles seem to be working as they should i think.

the speed needle and rev needle seem ok i think.

it's just the digital display that does not show any actual miles but the trip shows how many you have actually covered.

as soon as you touch the trip reset button it knocks everything out.

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Ok, so it may very well be a faulty connection inside the instrument display panel or the display component itself. Unfortunately, given the age of the vehicle, I do not any wiring diagrams for this model.

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Hi Marc,

thank you for all your help

would you have a part number for the speedo at all so i can look at the dreaded flea bay for a replacement

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Re: Citroen synergie 2002 speedometer problem

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Its not just the bulb behind the milometer blown is it?
On the Synergie/Dispatch when the bulb goes you can barley see the display.

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Hi Marc I don’t think so as the trip is nice and bright

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I’ve had a quick look on flea bay none about only Peugeot ones and some ulysse ones I doubt very much they would fit

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Re: Citroen synergie 2002 speedometer problem

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There are no separate control units, only the complete instrument panel. The part number is 6101YC (of course no longer available from Citroen), but shared with the 806 from the same era.

None I can find, but these claim to have one in stock for an 806 with the same part number:

http://www.peugeotparts.co.uk/page1.htm

I can't see it being the tachometer (speed control) unit, or you would have speedo issues which you say are fine. I would be tempted to take the unit cover off and make sure all the connections are nice and tight and that there are not loose wires or plugs first of all.
Last edited by GiveMeABreak on 23 Mar 2019, 14:34, edited 1 time in total.
Reason: Correct my Part Number Typo

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Here's how to remove it:
Synergie Dash A1.PNG
Synergie Dash A2.PNG
Remove the fuse board access trap for access to the fixing (1).Remove:
  • The mountings (2)
  • The upper cowling
Push the steering column adjustment locking lever.
Remove the bottom cowl (3).
Synergie Dash A.PNG
Synergie Dash B.PNG
Remove:
  • The mountings (4)
  • The fixing (5)(Access from below the lower cowl)
  • The instrument panel cover (6)
Lower the steering column as far as possible.
Remove the mountings (7).
Synergie Dash C.PNG
Refitting

N.B.: Check that the neck (9) which guides the speedometer cable is correctly positioned.
  • Proceed in the reverse order to removal.
  • Check the operation of the electrical supplies and the speedometer cable.

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been on the website you recommended all i can see are these, however the part number you suggested is "The part number is 6010YC" is this a typo or am i looking at the totally wrong one?

6101TF 306 INSTRUMENT CLUSTER 1
6101YC 806 INSTRUMENT CLUSTER 0
6101YE 806 INSTRUMENT CLUSTER 0
6101YY 806 INSTRUMENT CLUSTER 0

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Apologies my Bad! Too much going on.

The Part number should of read 6101YC. I have corrected my original post now.

Here is the link again with the search enabled on this part number - just do a CTRL F and type the part number to locate it on the web page.

http://www.peugeotparts.co.uk/page18.htm

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Re: Citroen synergie 2002 speedometer problem

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They must have just sold it as they are showing 0 available.

i will keep looking though thank you So much