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Post by jacksun1987 » 07 Dec 2013, 14:58

Im starting todo more miles now. Ive never had a hdi before. Ive been looking at a few on tinternet. The xantia hdis and c5 hdi are nearly the same price. The 406 hdis are cheaper. Ive noticed. The xsrea hdis do more miles pre gallon. Prob the same with the 306 hdis.
I would love a xantia hdi. Good ones are going for strong money. cheap ones are slowly getting hard to come by. There are loads of c5 hdis. I've sat in a c5 didn't quite like it. Seemed to big bubbly. But ive never driven one before. How nice are the are they any good?
I really did like my 406 td. That felt nice, I would go for the 110 bhp ones not the 90 ones. The really cheap 406s ive seen and a odd c5s have done over 200k on the clocks.
When i driven a mondeo 03 tdi with 250 k it felt sluggish. Would the same thing happen to the hdis with high miles on or do they last longer?

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Post by jacksun1987 » 07 Dec 2013, 15:13

what 406 and xantia hdis have the low tax band ?

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Post by spider » 07 Dec 2013, 15:21

Probably 2001 onwards as they go on emission level then instead of engine size.

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Post by Northern_Mike » 07 Dec 2013, 15:22

I don't believe any Xantias have low tax band. Probably the same for 406s too.

If you want Citroen, HDi and low tax on a budget then you'll have to look for a C5 series 1. Good ones are lovely and I find then comfier than a Xantia and with more surefooted handling.

Good ones are great. Poor ones are horrid. You *will* need a lexia.

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Post by spider » 07 Dec 2013, 16:24

I think Lexia compulsory to avoid dealer charges. :)

I (think) the last 406's ie 02 plate will be cheaper tax potentially, not verified but I found that a 2002 106D was cheaper tax than a 2000...

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Post by Northern_Mike » 07 Dec 2013, 16:37

spider wrote:I think Lexia compulsory to avoid dealer charges. :)
and with it bankruptcy, in the case of a C5...

You're probably right about the later 406s, I didn't realise they made them so long after the Xantia. All Xantias, as far as I know (apart from the mystery one we know of on here) are pre-emissions measured road tax.

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Post by Northern_Mike » 07 Dec 2013, 17:29

Jacksun, look in the for sale section, there's a HDi Exclusive estate, 228k miles, up your way in St.Neots for sale. At that mileage, it'll still have loads of life left in it . Sounds like a well looked after, good one..

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... =7&t=46872" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Post by jacksun1987 » 07 Dec 2013, 17:59

does the Exclusive have a trip computer so it tell you how many miles you get per gallon etc

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Post by rory_perrett » 07 Dec 2013, 19:32

Not the Xantia.

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Post by Citroenmad » 07 Dec 2013, 21:59

HDi Xantia makes for a very nice car and its a much nicer engine to drive and live with than the TD, though the XUD is a great engine the HDi has moved things on. Economy is better, drive is better and its much more refined. I'm not sure you will notice a massive increase in economy but there should be some.

C5 HDis are cheap but they could well cost more in the long run. I've not found C5s expensive to run but they certainly have their quirks. The C5 is a very strong and safe car and they do grip the road a little better but do not drive as well, in my opinion. The C5 certainly has advantages over the Xantia but then the Xantia also has its benefits over the C5. Choose which you like best.

If you are lucky enough to find a Xantia HDi which was registered in after March 2001 then you will have a slightly reduced tax bill, around £185 I think. Otherwise, it will be the usual Xantia bracket.

The 2.0HDi 8v in 110 is one of the better more modern diesels I think, it has no DPF (don't buy a Peugeot 307 110 as they do) and in the Xantia there is no DMF, which is one reason so buy the Xantia over the C5. When the dual mass flywheel goes its a costly thing to replace. I'm not sure if the 406 got the DMF, probably at some point.
jacksun1987 wrote:does the Exclusive have a trip computer so it tell you how many miles you get per gallon etc
Nope but you can get a plug in device which does that and much more, I have one in my HDi Xantia.

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Post by Northern_Mike » 07 Dec 2013, 22:48

Citroenmad wrote:
If you are lucky enough to find a Xantia HDi which was registered in after March 2001 then you will have a slightly reduced tax bill, around £185 I think. Otherwise, it will be the usual Xantia bracket.
Which, after next year for those who find it hard to pay out £260 or whatever all at once, won't be too bad, as we'll apparently be able to pay our road tax by monthly direct debit when the tax disc is abolished.

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Post by Citroenmad » 07 Dec 2013, 23:30

Northern_Mike wrote:
Citroenmad wrote:
If you are lucky enough to find a Xantia HDi which was registered in after March 2001 then you will have a slightly reduced tax bill, around £185 I think. Otherwise, it will be the usual Xantia bracket.
Which, after next year for those who find it hard to pay out £260 or whatever all at once, won't be too bad, as we'll apparently be able to pay our road tax by monthly direct debit when the tax disc is abolished.
That is a great idea I think, it's about time the system was more modern ...

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Post by Xaccers » 07 Dec 2013, 23:43

Citroenmad wrote: That is a great idea I think, it's about time the system was more modern ...
It should mean more people paying too as spreading the cost makes it easier to afford

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Post by addo » 07 Dec 2013, 23:52

I hope there's a reliable way to advise people of a failed drawdown, before they get penalised.

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Post by Xaccers » 08 Dec 2013, 00:29

addo wrote:I hope there's a reliable way to advise people of a failed drawdown, before they get penalised.
Normally if a direct debit bounces you get a letter from the company that should have been paid saying they'll try again in a few days, and also a letter from the bank saying they've rejected the payment and charged you for the privilege.