xantia 1995 19td, g box has gone v noisy i rebuilt it around 10 years ago at 120k now 0n 245k i think the main shaft bearings are shot again , i have been offered a box from a 1900td zx 1993 how can i tell whether it'll fit it looks the same but is it?
All help[ appreciated Tim
identifying g box type
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identifying g box type
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Re: identifying g box type
Probably, I have successfully transplanted gearboxes from a number of donors, a TD ZX should have a BE3 box.
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Re: identifying g box type
It WILL be the same.
ALL TD equpit cars of this eira used the BE 3/5 box and they ALL used the pull clutch.
As long as the donar car be it ZX, 306 or 405 is DEAFENATLY a Turbo D 1.9.. then you be perfectly fine. No problem!
ALL TD equpit cars of this eira used the BE 3/5 box and they ALL used the pull clutch.
As long as the donar car be it ZX, 306 or 405 is DEAFENATLY a Turbo D 1.9.. then you be perfectly fine. No problem!
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Re: identifying g box type
Oh it's defiantly a 1900rd the injection pump from it is on my car and so are the injectors so as its gratis I will go and take it.out.
Incidentally does the be3suffer from diff problems
Tim
Incidentally does the be3suffer from diff problems
Tim
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Re: identifying g box type
Not diff but more weak syncro on third gear.. ive not heard of diff issues. Im no expert though..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
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M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
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Re: identifying g box type
The BE3 gearboxes on my previous BX DTR, & current Xantia TD, have exhibited weaker synchros on 2nd, rather than 3rd. On the TD, I find the slight crunch in 2nd occurs when the engine/gearbox oil is cold, the more so in winter IIRC. Will shortly find out over the next few months.
As regards using a gearbox from another model, I question whether the gear and diff ratios will be the same, although obviously as a system, it will still work. Sometime after my 1995 TD was built, the rev counter was changed (I won't say upgraded) from mechanical to electrical.
As regards using a gearbox from another model, I question whether the gear and diff ratios will be the same, although obviously as a system, it will still work. Sometime after my 1995 TD was built, the rev counter was changed (I won't say upgraded) from mechanical to electrical.
Martin
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Re: identifying g box type
TD rev counters have ALWAYS been electronic, and got their signal from a Black Sensor on the side of the Diff, and picked its signal from the back the of flywheel.
Ive not known of a mechanical rev counter on Xantia or 306/405 td's - unless Im mistaken.
Ive not known of a mechanical rev counter on Xantia or 306/405 td's - unless Im mistaken.
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
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1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
Re: identifying g box type
Oooops I think I mean the speedo take-off (not rev-counter) on output from the diff side of the gearbox - thanks Paul. Another senior momentcitroenxm wrote:Ive not known of a mechanical rev counter on Xantia or 306/405 td's - unless Im mistaken.
Martin
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Re: identifying g box type
Lol no worries.. in fact it was earlyer then 1995.. it was in 1994 M reg they changed.. or is M reg 1995.. gawd i get so confused what letter is for what year..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
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L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
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M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
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