identifying g box type

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Bobcat
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identifying g box type

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xantia 1995 19td, g box has gone v noisy i rebuilt it around 10 years ago at 120k now 0n 245k i think the main shaft bearings are shot again , i have been offered a box from a 1900td zx 1993 how can i tell whether it'll fit it looks the same but is it?
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Stewart(oily)
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Re: identifying g box type

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Probably, I have successfully transplanted gearboxes from a number of donors, a TD ZX should have a BE3 box.
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Re: identifying g box type

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It WILL be the same.

ALL TD equpit cars of this eira used the BE 3/5 box and they ALL used the pull clutch.

As long as the donar car be it ZX, 306 or 405 is DEAFENATLY a Turbo D 1.9.. then you be perfectly fine. No problem!
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Bobcat
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Re: identifying g box type

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Oh it's defiantly a 1900rd the injection pump from it is on my car and so are the injectors so as its gratis I will go and take it.out.
Incidentally does the be3suffer from diff problems
Tim
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Re: identifying g box type

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Not diff but more weak syncro on third gear.. ive not heard of diff issues. Im no expert though..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
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Re: identifying g box type

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The BE3 gearboxes on my previous BX DTR, & current Xantia TD, have exhibited weaker synchros on 2nd, rather than 3rd. On the TD, I find the slight crunch in 2nd occurs when the engine/gearbox oil is cold, the more so in winter IIRC. Will shortly find out over the next few months.

As regards using a gearbox from another model, I question whether the gear and diff ratios will be the same, although obviously as a system, it will still work. Sometime after my 1995 TD was built, the rev counter was changed (I won't say upgraded) from mechanical to electrical.
Martin

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Re: identifying g box type

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TD rev counters have ALWAYS been electronic, and got their signal from a Black Sensor on the side of the Diff, and picked its signal from the back the of flywheel.

Ive not known of a mechanical rev counter on Xantia or 306/405 td's - unless Im mistaken.
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
Xantidote
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Re: identifying g box type

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citroenxm wrote:Ive not known of a mechanical rev counter on Xantia or 306/405 td's - unless Im mistaken.
Oooops :oops: :oops: I think I mean the speedo take-off (not rev-counter) on output from the diff side of the gearbox - thanks Paul. Another senior moment #-o
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Re: identifying g box type

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Lol no worries.. in fact it was earlyer then 1995.. it was in 1994 M reg they changed.. or is M reg 1995.. gawd i get so confused what letter is for what year..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto