Possibly...Though to get it sitting properly secure you have to have them pretty wicked tight. It really isn't a particularly great design...and that's nothing to do with Invacar/AC...the stalk is straight out of the Lucas parts bin.Michel wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 22:31 Great stuff Zel, as always.
Would plastic numberplate nuts and bolts hold the indicator stalk secure?
I'm going to have a proper look at it next time I'm in the garage and have a think. What I might do as my next plan of attack before resorting to sealant will be to measure the hole in there and have a look at what I've got to play with. If there's enough meat on the casting around the screw holes I might try drilling it out and properly tapping a hole with a reasonably coarse thread and sourcing a matching bolt - then going to town with the thread lock when bolting it up. Got to be better than the stock self-tapping screw arrangement!
I certainly plan to keep getting shots of all the cars out and about, the more comical looking locations for the Invacar the better. If she keeps driving like she is at the moment there should hopefully be plenty more to come.NewcastleFalcon wrote: 08 Dec 2020, 22:21 Love the location shoots Zel, Lovely pics keep them coming.
Lots of creativity possible with the Invacar in particular. How often do you see a decent "brochure setting" for photo's of an invacar? Certainly not from the manufacturers when they were launched. But now....its such a quirky little icon that it would be fun seeing it in one of those typical glossy brochure settings.... on a long gravel drive up to some ornamental lakes, or in front of a stately home you know the type of thing.
I like the "lights on" pics of bpth the XJS and the Invacar.....I think I'll give that a go myself with my point and shoot camera see how they turn out!
Does make me feel sad for how much stick they got at the time though. Do have to wonder if some of the derision they were treated with would have been avoided if when AC designed the Model 70 if they'd used a more modern looking body rather than the recycled shell from the Mark 67 Invacar just with the addition of flared wheel arches to accommodate the wider rear track. Under the skin with the possible exception of a couple of bits of seat and some of the wheelchair attachment points there's absolutely nothing in common...yet they looked the same so were assumed to be just as poor a substitute for a car.
Well to be honest, that's being a bit unfair to the Model 67 too...Like most of the Villiers engined machines they were a product of their time...Essentially a 40s/50s design built down to a cost. Given that life tended to be lived rather more locally back then, the need to be able to go beyond 40mph or so really wasn't the huge issue that I think a lot of folks made it out to be.
Yes the cabin of the Model 70 is very basic. Yes it's a noisy little buzz-box. No, it's not as stable as a car with a full compliment of wheels. No, it's not going to have Ford worrying about sales of the Cortina...but I've driven a fair number of cars from the early 70s which are no better to drive than the Model 70. I mean the simple fact that it's quite content to cruise at 60...I remember that feeling like it took honest effort in my first Metro...and that was a car from 1986. I reckon that if AC had put their minds to it the Model 70 with a few tweaks could have been an honest competitor to the likes of the Fiat 500/126, Reliant Kitten/Robin etc segment. I've already seen what a huge difference just adding a bit of soft(ish) interior trim and a better seat has made to the car.
In fact it very nearly was...at least three prototype "Town Cars" were made, two three and one four wheeled I'm aware of...all four seaters. and as far as we know - from the steering wheel back mechanically they are at least largely Model 70. Most likely with the 650cc variant of the Steyr-Puch engine though to handle the extra weight.
They're contemporary with the Model 70...All of these look so much more modern though - albeit seeming somewhat more dated in their own way because of it nowadays.
Afraid I've absolutely NO idea where these photos originally came from - I've seen them posted a plethora of times over the last few years in various forums. So I'm afraid I can't credit the original sources in this case other than "the internet." If anyone DOES know the actual source, please feel free to let me know.
Model 70 exhaust system clearly on show there!
This one I believe is now in a private collection over in the USA.
Not sure about the other two below.
Obviously with the microcar boom dying off by then and the explosive success of the Mini in that sector they never took it beyond the prototype stage...but I do find myself wondering about it as one of those "what might have been?" sort of situations. If AC were planning something like this from the start though I reckon it may well explain why some aspects of the Model 70 are - for what it is - quite so over-engineered. Suspension, drive and chassis are hard to fault. They just plonked a really basic body on top of it.
























