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Silly thought.

Post by Gibbo2286 » 25 Jul 2019, 17:08

This morning, I thought 'might as well sort the pre/post heating fault' check and replace the dodgy glow plugs, had a quick look to see if there were any tips on you tube, think I'll give it a miss for a day or two or three...…………. :(

It's better with the music muted.

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Post by myglaren » 25 Jul 2019, 17:29

Definitely better with the sound off.

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Post by Gibbo2286 » 25 Jul 2019, 18:32

Not a bad video considering the restricted space back there though.

A tip for getting at the contacts in those deep connector sockets, use a couple of pieces of curtain wire, it fits well and is insulated, makes it easier to use your meter..
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Post by GiveMeABreak » 25 Jul 2019, 19:12

I think you'll find that issue isn't the actual glow plugs - its the glow plug relay that's the issue - but I've had it on all my C5s - always comes up as a fault - nothing wrong with the plugs including starting in sub-zero temperatures first time. I would ignore it.

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Post by Gibbo2286 » 26 Jul 2019, 08:26

You may be right Marc but I'll check them out anyway...……… when the enthusiasm returns. :)

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Post by Hell Razor5543 » 26 Jul 2019, 08:58

I take it that, with the heat we have been having, your get-up-and-go has got-up-and-went to cooler, more comfortable climates? :D

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Post by Gibbo2286 » 26 Jul 2019, 09:07

I don't mind the heat James after serving in Egypt for nigh on a couple of years means I hate the cold, I've just got lazy. :)

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Post by Michel » 26 Jul 2019, 09:44

GiveMeABreak wrote:
25 Jul 2019, 19:12
I think you'll find that issue isn't the actual glow plugs - its the glow plug relay that's the issue - but I've had it on all my C5s - always comes up as a fault - nothing wrong with the plugs including starting in sub-zero temperatures first time. I would ignore it.


Yes, I've had it on every 2.0HDi Ctiroen I've ever owned - C5s, Berlingo, Xantia. Always the same error, never a problem

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Post by Gibbo2286 » 26 Jul 2019, 11:50

Well that's confirmed I need some glow plugs :( just been out and got the ohm meter on them and only one is working.

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Post by GiveMeABreak » 26 Jul 2019, 12:05

If you’re down to one then probably a good idea, but looks a total faf to do:



Having a bad back rules this out for me unfortunately.

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Post by Gibbo2286 » 26 Jul 2019, 12:43

My thoughts exactly but I guess Citroen didn't include them in the build for fun so I'd best get it done while the sun shines.

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Post by GiveMeABreak » 26 Jul 2019, 12:45

The do recommend coating the plug threads with some anti-seize ceramic or copper paste before fitting the new ones - and watch out for the tips as I'm sure you know these can break off.

I know that if you have the P1351 error code then it can also be the relay - but as you've checked the plugs directly I guess it's those in this scenario.

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Post by Gibbo2286 » 26 Jul 2019, 13:10

It might be both I suppose but I'll do the plugs first,

It does look as though the guy in the video has coated the new plugs with copper grease.

Like the bit fishing out the dropped tool? :-D

We have a much better view on his video than he has from his position.

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Post by MikeT » 26 Jul 2019, 16:35

Gibbo2286 wrote:
26 Jul 2019, 13:10
It might be both I suppose but I'll do the plugs first,

Good for you, Gibbo! If gaining access isn't enough to put you off, or the collective warnings from the professionals and forum members to not risk breaking the plugs on removal, I salute your tenacity to try and fix the fault. I'm not entirley convinced there's no benefit to be had having a working pre/post heating system, no matter how neglible that may be in our climate.

One tip I learnt to avoid the potential of breaking a plug on removal is to use a torque wrench set at half the manufacturers tightening value. I'm told it should offer sufficient force to undo them while guarding against breakage. Pre-soaking with a releasing agent like plus-gas may be required if they don't want to budge on first attempt.

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Re: Silly thought.

Post by NewcastleFalcon » 26 Jul 2019, 19:47

I was so pleased with myself when I got my glow plugs out after taking root in the head for 200,000 miles and 12 years, that I put a pic up on "Picture(s) of the Day". I wonder if your 2.0HDI plugs are stubbier than mine? The ones on my former 02 reg 2.0HDi (8V) picasso were. If you get them out put up a celebratory pic! :-D
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This is a dud glow plug. Its been in place for 200,000 miles and I have just got back on the glow plug removal horse, after a traumatic incident summarised in this thread....Glow Plugs Annihilate 2.0HDi Xsara Picasso

I had my trusty fairy liquid bottle filled with a mixture of ATF and Diesel, and adopted the "screw it in screw it out repeat" technique and tried to persuade as much lube as possible down the "hole" before using the "up down, up down, spin right spin left" repeat and out it came, intact, and remarkably clean as a whistle.

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regards Neil