Hi All,
I am planning to change the cambelt on a 2010 2.0hdi c5 X7 2010 with automatic AM6 box. I need to clarify the following please:
1- Do I need to be in “P” or “N” to align the camshaft?
2- planing to use M8 bolt to lock camshaft, do I need special tool for flywheel lock? do I need to remove starter to find it?
3- is it OK to use impact wrench on crank pulley to undo it? If NO, how to undo the 22mm nut?
4- How to tighten the crank pulley nut? And does it need to be at 70Nm + 62 degrees?
Does anybody have any instructions that might assist in carrying out the cambelt change please?
Thank you in advance for any help.
Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
Pop your VIN here (it will automatically be masked) and I'll see what I have.
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
You would have to have the gearbox in N surely. Otherwise you could bust the parking pawl in the gearbox.
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
It does not really matter, as the torque converter isolates the engine from the transmission regardless of the gear selected.
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^ Very good point! looks like my brain was in the wrong gear making that comment
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GiveMeABreak wrote: ↑02 Oct 2018, 13:47 Pop your VIN here (it will automatically be masked) and I'll see what I have.
Thanks Marc, the VIN is:
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
If you buy a gates cambelt kit it will come with a set of instructions.
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I would certainly recommend one of the kits - there are 2 available from Citroen - one with the belt and pulleys and the other with all that plus the water pump and gasket.
Prices:
Belt & Pulleys - Part No: 0831W1: £162.41 inc. VAT
As above including Water Pump & Gasket - Part No: 1613561780: £209.70 Inc. VAT
Whilst I'm putting together the 'How To' document for you, here are the recommended tools and their part numbers that will be referenced in the procedure that I will post up shortly:
Prices:
Belt & Pulleys - Part No: 0831W1: £162.41 inc. VAT
As above including Water Pump & Gasket - Part No: 1613561780: £209.70 Inc. VAT
Reference | Designation | Tightening Torque |
(45) | Bolts (Timing Cover) | 0,5 daNm |
(46) | Bolts (Cylinder Reference Sensor ) | 0,6 daNm |
(47) | Bolts (Timing Chain Tensioner) | 0,6 daNm |
(48) | Bolts (Roller Tensioner ) | 5,7 daNm |
(49) | Bolts (Engine Speed Sensor) | 0,7 daNm |
(50) | Nut (Roller Tensioner ) (Timing Gear) | 2,1 daNm |
(51) | Stud (Roller Tensioner ) (Timing Gear) | 1 daNm |
(52) | Bolts (Camshaft Pulley ) | Pre-tighten to 2 daNm Angular tightening to 60° |
Whilst I'm putting together the 'How To' document for you, here are the recommended tools and their part numbers that will be referenced in the procedure that I will post up shortly:
HDi Plug Kit | Flywheel Stop | Peg for Detting Camshaft Pulley |
Flywheel Locking Tool | Belt Clamp | Pulley Centring Tool |
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
C5 X7 (163) DW10CTED4 Timing Belt Procedure
Part One: Ancillary Drive Belt
Tools Used:
Remove:
Part Two: Timing Belt
Tools Used: Refer to Previous Post
Here endeth the lesson.
Part One: Ancillary Drive Belt
Tools Used:
Dynamic Tensioner Compression Lever | 4 mm Dia. Peg |
- The protective panel under the engine
- The front right wheel
- The front right mud guard
CAUTION: Mark the direction of fitting of the ancillary drive belt if it is to be reused. Fit the tool [0188-Z] on the dynamic tensioner bolt (1). Detension the ancillary drive belt (2); Using tool [0188-Z]. | Peg by means of tool [0188-Q1] (at "a"). Remove: The tool [0188-Z] The accessories drive belt (2) Checks: Make the following checks:
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Refit the ancillary belt (2), checking that the belt is correctly fitted in the grooves of the different pulleys and if re-using the old belt, ensure that it is refit in the correct fitting direction. Remove the peg [0188-Q1]; Using tool [0188-Z]. Refit:
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Tools Used: Refer to Previous Post
During removal: Plug the fuel low pressure supply pipes; Using the plugs [1617-J].
| Remove the air union (3) CAUTION: Use a rubber shim of sufficient surface area to avoid distorting the engine oil sump (Risk of obstruction of the oil pump suction strainer.) Support the engine using a jack and a soft block (Timing gear side). Remove:
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Disconnect the connector of the engine speed sensor (at "c"). Release and move aside the electrical harness (8). Remove:
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CAUTION: It is essential to rotate the engine by means of the bolt (12) and in the clockwise direction only. Peg:
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CAUTION: The target (16) must show no trace of damage and no magnetic source must go near it. CAUTION: Use of an impact wrench is prohibited (Risk of the bolt (12) breaking in the crankshaft) Remove:
| Unscrew nut (17). Detension the dynamic tensioner roller (18). Remove the timing belt (19). | ||||||||
Verification Check that the following components rotate freely (Absence of play and points of resistance):
| Dynamic Roller Tensioner CAUTION: The operations for replacing and adjusting the tension of the dynamic tensioner roller (18) are performed with the aid of a mirror. Replacement CAUTION: Do not release the new dynamic tensioner roller (18) without having refitted the timing belt (19). Remove:
Refit:
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If Re-Used: CAUTION: The dynamic tensioner roller (18) should be secured in the cylindrical pin (25). Align the eccentric (24) on the axis "d" ; Using a hexagonal spanner. | Refitting: CAUTION: Adhere to the tightening torques. Pre-Tightening The Belt CAUTION: Always replace the timing belt (19).
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Remove the tools [0188-AD], [0188-AH]. | CAUTION: Systematically replace the screw (12); Do not go beyond 5 minutes between pre-tightening and final tightening of the bolt . Refit:
Turn the engine 6 rotations in the clockwise direction. Check the position of the timing belt (19). Peg the assembly with tools [0188-F], [0188-M], [0188-Y]. Slacken the bolt (12) in order to permit the crankshaft pulley to rotate on its keyways. |
Final Tension CAUTION: When detensioning the dynamic tensioner roller, do not go past the index "g". Otherwise, you must restart the pretensioning operation. Apply a nominal tension to the timing belt:
Remove the tools [0188-F], [0188-M], [0188-Y]. Refit the pulley cover (11) ; Using rubber lubricant CAUTION: Check the correct positioning of the pulley cover by pulling gently on the lip. Refit:
Connect the connector of the engine speed sensor (at "c"). Refit:
Refit the Ancillary Belt. Refit the Front RH Splash Shield Refit:
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
Seems a good price. Would Citroen not use gates belts originally?.
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
They do, and the one that came off mine was a Gates belt when I recently had the complete kit done on mine at 70k, so the previous was the original one.
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
Not as good a price as this
https://www.piecesauto24.com/gates/7650292
https://www.piecesauto24.com/gates/7650292
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
Pete, that looks reasonably priced, have you actually bought this kit from them? Is it genuine Gates kit?
If so I will order one.
If so I will order one.
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
I have ordered from them, and if it's not in stock then an equivalent or better is supplied. I will buy my kit from them along with the filters and oil, though it's not the same kit, slightly older version of the same engine. Dispatched by courier and comes from Germany for 10 euros for me in 3 days.
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Re: Cambelt change on an automatic c5 tourer 2010 2.0 HDI
Guys - just watch the part numbers - there are similar, but different ones depending on engine. I only supply the original Citroen OEM part numbers - so you have the originals to compare - but from what I can see some of those part numbers are not the same.
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