original bsi and ecu files

[peyvey]

does anyone know where i can find the original flash files of the ECU and BSI that the car came with when it was new, i want to re-program the eeprom
I think the engine ECU or the BSI got corrupted.
I have seen certain possibillities in diagbox for downloads and repair
does anyone have experience with that? I work mostly with an offline version of diagbox and i am always a little scared that i do more damage then good when i am in the telecoding chapter of the program
Anyone who can tell me anything sensible, please do

[mickthemaverick]

It might be worth asking these people: https://www.ecufile.net/categoria-files ... oftware/2/

[ozvtr]

does anyone know where i can find the original flash files of the ECU and BSI that the car came with when it was new, i want to re-program the eeprom

Be careful of the above link. These guys tend to be insular, arrogant and tend to tear noobs a new @$$. Just saying...be careful.

I think the engine ECU or the BSI got corrupted.

What gives you that idea? Any examples?

I have seen certain possibillities in diagbox for downloads and repair

If you are talking about the DS5 forget it. It's done online through a secure portal. You need to be a dealer or a business who has bought access.
You could probably do what you want for cars based on models designed before 2005 but you will struggle finding anyone to help you for cars designed after 2010. If you are smart enough and tenacious enough you might find what you want. But you will need to follow a lot of breadcrumbs!
Sorry to be a negative nelly but the manufacturers are tightening the noose around their IP and make it harder to do stuff like this. The few bright people smart enough to crack this don't give it away for free! Or they won't give it away at all, but will do the job for you...for a price.

[peyvey]

Thanks for reacting both

you ask why i think one of those modules got corrupted, I am not at all sure but i have something weird going on in the immobiliser communication between ECU and BSI
I will attach a file to this post. is a print out of the immobiliser part in the BSI, you can see
the comfort acces module has recognised the key code but the recognition of the code for starting that must come from the engine ECU says NO
The second file is a little clip from the eng ECU where you can see that the ECU has accepted the keycode and authorises the engine to work, but in the last line you can see it toggling between
NO PROBLEMS FOUND and WAITING FOR REACTION OF BSI. (it is in dutch)
Apparently the bsi must send an all OK signal but it doesn't. Now i have two possibillities
1 the engine may work signal from the ECU does not reach the BSI so everything stays locked
2 or The BSI fails to respond with the all OK unlock signal
I find it hard to decide what to do next i am not at all familiar with re-programming eeproms and such stuff but i also dont have deep pockets for reparations
BUT THIS CAR SHALL RUN AGAIN
in the meantime i am gratefull for anyone who can help me
peyvey

[Paul-R]

You need to set access rights for the YouTube video to public as it is currently private and is just showing a black rectangle.

[peyvey]

I have done so Thanks

[ozvtr]

This is a bit hard to decipher.

You have a scan of the BSI but you don't have a scan of the engine ECU.

The BSI seems to accept the key code but the engine ECU doesn't?

What's the history of this car? Can you give us any clues?
I am assuming that you "acquired" this car and now you are trying to get it running?

[peyvey]

I'll give a little background

This car was owned by a friend of mine who had acquired it approx a year ago from the first owner. He had no luck with this car, first the traction batteries cooling failed wich he repaired, then the ancilliary belt snapped as if it was cut by a sharp knive. That was also repaired and at the same time the timing belt was replaced. Then the anciliary belt snapped for a second time (again clean cut) and replaced again
Now the car was driving again untill after +- 2500 km he hears a strange sound and the engine quitts and does not want to start again.
The car is then towed to my workplace (i am a hobbyist)and has been standing there for +- six months.
My friend had no time and was fed up with it so i purchased the car at a reduced price so now i am dealing with it
First i have to make the engine running again, then i have to deal with the snapping belts
As for your remark about the ECU, the clip is a recording of the engine ECU
as you cannot see the toggling in a print out
I strongly suspect that the BSI does not receive the message from the ECU
so either the ECU software got corrupted or it is a hardware issue
I have tried re-learning my keys but to no avail

I am still open to anyone with good ideas
peyvey

[Rhothgar]

does anyone know where i can find the original flash files of the ECU and BSI that the car came with when it was new, i want to re-program the eeprom

Be careful of the above link. These guys tend to be insular, arrogant and tend to tear noobs a new @$$. Just saying...be careful.

Couldn't agree more about that ecufiles.net!

I emailed these people last night and their response was ultra quick.

They have files for Xantia on their site for 20 Euros for flash file, 20 Euros for EEPROM or 20 Euros for both!!!!

So I asked rather politely if they would provide virgin procedure instructions after detailing what my issue is (as I have earlier detailed in a post to you this evening) and they said that the fault codes needed erasing from EEPROM. Cost 50 Euros!

So I questioned it. Tone changed immediately. They said I should go and use someone who charges 20 Euros at my own risk. When I then sent them a link to show they were selling original files at 20 Euros, they said that they were original and not virgin! Well what's the bloody difference? No explanation other than professional users buy the 20 Euro files.

I think they are bullshitters and possibly scam artists - who knows? Or perhaps more likely they were trying it on. If an original file is not the same as a virgin file then what is it? It cannot be programmed to another car can it?

Or am I not understanding this properly?

I really hope you can offer some more advice.

HDI-Tuning.co.uk offer files for £10 or £12.99 depending. I've just watched one of their YouTube videos. Seem genuine and straight.

I hope you can advise further on my other request of you.

I have backups of bin files for flash and EEPROM so what is the worst that can happen to the ECU? If I brick it then surely I just rewrite backed up file?

[peyvey]

I am sertainly no specialist on the topic of flash files and ecu programming I have never done it but what i have understood is that a virgin file is the file to erase the old program (maybe all zero's or one's)
so no traces of the old program remains and then the new program is flashed

good luck, peyvey

[Rhothgar]

I am sertainly no specialist on the topic of flash files and ecu programming I have never done it but what i have understood is that a virgin file is the file to erase the old program (maybe all zero's or one's)
so no traces of the old program remains and then the new program is flashed

good luck, peyvey

I believe it is only certain blocks of data within the flash file otherwise the car would have no parameters to be able to run. That's my understanding. Been doing a lot of reading up and had a reply from Steven Lewis at HDi-Tuning.

The issue with my car is that apparently the Bosch EDC15C2 does get a bit grumpy once more than 50 after-sales zones have been stored and they do need deleting.

Watch this space!

[peyvey]

I have the same problem, 50 is maximum number that are stored. Now every time i want to erase a trouble code i have to turn ignition off and on again. I tried to clean up the zone memorie places (or whatever they are called) but i think you must be a registered mechanic.
But if you succeed please let me know how you did it

succes. peyvey

[Rhothgar]

You need FVDI hardware I believe.

Just borrowed one off a mate but spent last 3 hours trying to find software and correct firmware downloader. I don’t hold out much hope.

[peyvey]

do you use Diagbox as your scantool? is it an online or offline version
Why do you want to reflash your ecu eeprom, what problem do you have?

peyvey

[Rhothgar]

do you use Diagbox as your scantool? is it an online or offline version
Why do you want to reflash your ecu eeprom, what problem do you have?

peyvey

I use Lexia as it's on the Xantia this issue. I use it offline.

Basically, I have some fault codes appearing. In Lexia, a permanent fault code appears in blue text and an intermittent fault appears in red. Mine appear in black! To test, I have unplugged the air mass meter and it pops up without even rescanning, in blue. Plug it back in and it disappears.

I know there have been discussions on here about the effect of the 50 after-sales zones in Lexia and what happens when they are exceeded. Of course, you cannot exceed them but my car is showing 68 After-sales zones. Having spoken with one programmer, he echoed what someone else said online which was that it is an EEPROM fault and it needs work on it.

I am currently trying to find Immo Service Tool v1.5 as that has an option on to clear the lists a couple of us on here believe - though have not been able to test.