Resetting automatic gearbox oil counter kinda failed?

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Resetting automatic gearbox oil counter kinda failed?

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Hi Guys,

That's my first post on the forum, so Hi everyone. I recently bought 508 RXH and immediately changed the oil in my Aisin. From what I read I also have to reset the oil counter via Diagbox. And here is the problem I kind a did, namely, the process hasn't really finished, it just got stuck on the "Loading in progress", I could only cancel it, what I did. From what I know the operation in diagbox not only resets the oil counter but also reverts the default oil pressures in the gearbox. And now is the riddle have they been reverted since it looks like the whole procedure hasn't came to the end?

I think I followed the instruction in diagbox:
1. ignition on
2. gear neutral

There was only a confusing info about S&S - instruction says ignition off and on to turn it off? Strange since then it looks like it's on. I event tried to turn it off via the button. But nothing changed the whole procedure got stuck as well.

Any ideas what I'am doing wrong? Where and how to check if the oil pressures where reverted if the oil counter got resetted?

Thanks in advance for your help :)
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Re: Resetting automatic gearbox oil counter kinda failed?

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Basically Diagbox is telling you to turn off Stop & Start whilst it is undertaking the procedure to ensure the engine isn't stopped during the operation. You can disable the S&S system once you have started the engine. You'll need to consult your manual on how to disable it for your particular vehicle, after the engine has started (it resets itself once the engine has been switched off and restarted).
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Re: Resetting automatic gearbox oil counter kinda failed?

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 16 Feb 2025, 13:13 Basically Diagbox is telling you to turn off Stop & Start whilst it is undertaking the procedure to ensure the engine isn't stopped during the operation. You can disable the S&S system once you have started the engine. You'll need to consult your manual on how to disable it for your particular vehicle, after the engine has started (it resets itself once the engine has been switched off and restarted).
Not so sure about that. The engine shouldnt be running during resetting procedure.
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You haven't mentioned what system / engine you have, assuming this is not a Hybrid RHX, but you may be able to find the option in Diagbox to temporarily turn it off - hence the switch ignition off and on afterwards. You probably haven't found the relevant procedure. Check in the Engine ECU settings for Stop Start.
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 16 Feb 2025, 15:05 You haven't mentioned what system / engine you have, assuming this is not a Hybrid RHX, but you may be able to find the option in Diagbox to temporarily turn it off - hence the switch ignition off and on afterwards. You probably haven't found the relevant procedure. Check in the Engine ECU settings for Stop Start.
It’s the fake RXH meaning the lifted one without electric motor and 4x4. Pure 2.0 Blue HDI 😀

So what is the relevant procedure for my car? Diagbox suggests: engine off, ignition on, gear neutral. Don’t really know how to interpret the part about S&S.
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As I can't see the section and you haven't put up any screenshots, I can't help really you, plus there can be different procedures according to Diagbox version.

Just follow the procedure here:

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 16 Feb 2025, 23:36 As I can't see the section and you haven't put up any screenshots, I can't help really you, plus there can be different procedures according to Diagbox version.

Just follow the procedure here:

I will try add the screenshots tomorrow.
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woozie wrote: 16 Feb 2025, 02:05 Hi Guys,

That's my first post on the forum, so Hi everyone. I recently bought 508 RXH and immediately changed the oil in my Aisin. From what I read I also have to reset the oil counter via Diagbox. And here is the problem I kind a did, namely, the process hasn't really finished, it just got stuck on the "Loading in progress", I could only cancel it, what I did. From what I know the operation in diagbox not only resets the oil counter but also reverts the default oil pressures in the gearbox. And now is the riddle have they been reverted since it looks like the whole procedure hasn't came to the end?
I think I followed the instruction in diagbox:
1. ignition on
2. gear neutral
There was only a confusing info about S&S - instruction says ignition off and on to turn it off? Strange since then it looks like it's on. I event tried to turn it off via the button. But nothing changed the whole procedure got stuck as well.
Any ideas what I'am doing wrong? Where and how to check if the oil pressures where reverted if the oil counter got resetted?
Thanks in advance for your help :)
Exactly same problem. I installed a device that automatically disables the S&S when car is turn on so that's not a case. The solution is to try another version of diagbox. I use 9.186 ver. and does the job in every case.You can use a VM or a stand alone version.
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But did it work in your case? You managed to reset it?
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woozie wrote: 17 Feb 2025, 12:43 But did it work in your case? You managed to reset it?
Yes.Otherwise i wouldn't recommend it. BUT if i remember well, one of the condition to meet in order to reset counter, temperature of gearbox oil must be around 50-60 C° or something like that. Also, it depends from the car equipment, if you have keyless fob, you must place it in service key reader position in under tray and not in central console reader. Same day i bought my car did the same thing as you do and i was prepared with gearbox oil, diagbox and Lexia equipment to do this job almost 2 years before and had the same fault stuck on the "Loading in progress" and even after half an hour nothing happened. I used the diagbox 9.68 i think and then switched to 9.91 to reset it if i can remember.Today i use the 9.168 ver. which i think is the best version i used with many diagnostic problems solved.
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The info in diagbox didn’t mention the temperature. The key I did insert in the tray. What do you mean by central control reader?

Do you also had the exact issue that the screen froze on the loading?
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woozie wrote: 17 Feb 2025, 13:54 The info in diagbox didn’t mention the temperature. The key I did insert in the tray. What do you mean by central control reader?

Do you also had the exact issue that the screen froze on the loading?
Maybe the diagbox version is too old to do the job.Which version you used? I'm sure that when you change the gear box oil it must be warm (i don't remember exactly temp) but i think to reset it also around 50 C°.It was needed because to do the adaption of electrovalves must be in working temp. In any case use another diagbox version. Yes i had the same fault in Diagbox, stuck on the "Loading in progress" for ages. Scratched my head what i was doing wrong until i used another diagbox ver.
This is the central key reader.
508 reader.jpg
And this is like the key reader service position. I suppose that this is not the case because otherwise maybe you hadn't any communication with diagbox or whatever.
508 key reader.jpg
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Key in the service reader. Diagbox 9.128 The only think was the temperature - the oil was cold. During changes manual says 60-80 from what I remember.
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woozie wrote: 17 Feb 2025, 17:13 Key in the service reader. Diagbox 9.128 The only think was the temperature - the oil was cold. During changes manual says 60-80 from what I remember.

To change the oil of the gearbox, this must be warm for sure around 50+. Because there is some time that i changed it, i can't remember exactly all the requirements.
O.K. Then your only choice is to try out another version of Diagbox like i did. This solved my problem. I think that with 9.129 i did the reset. With 9.91 ver. had problems too. But 9.168 ver. is working best of all at least for my car and year. There are some links..in your own risk. I didn't had problems although.
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LedZep wrote: 17 Feb 2025, 14:18
woozie wrote: 17 Feb 2025, 13:54 The info in diagbox didn’t mention the temperature. The key I did insert in the tray. What do you mean by central control reader?

Do you also had the exact issue that the screen froze on the loading?
Maybe the diagbox version is too old to do the job.Which version you used? I'm sure that when you change the gear box oil it must be warm (i don't remember exactly temp) but i think to reset it also above 80°.It was needed because to do the adaption of electrovalves must be in working temp. In any case use another diagbox version. Yes i had the same fault in Diagbox, stuck on the "Loading in progress" for ages. Scratched my head what i was doing wrong until i used another diagbox ver.
This is the central key reader.
Image
And this is like the key reader service position. I suppose that this is not the case because otherwise maybe you hadn't any communication with diagbox or whatever.
Image
Has it procedure in your case changed the behaviour of gears - soon there or harsher? I observed that after changing oil the changes are harsher. But right now I don’t know if I reset the electro valves or not. The oil counter was resetted even the screen was frozen at loading. Diagbox shows 00000.