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Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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Hi guys. Hoping you can help. Have a ds5 2015 plate 1.6.

Had an orange service light come up on my dash this morning and stay on. There was a notification in the panel to the right saying 'check dipped headlamps' Got home checked my lights and it seems drivers side headlamp is out. Passenger side still working.

I've checked the handbook and it gives mes different lights to use based on if I've got Xenon headlamps or halogen ones.

How do I know which headlamps I actually have? As I'm not great with cars?

Is this something that could be done myself? Or does it need to be taken to a qualified dealer? Not sure how difficult it is to change one of these dipped headlamps?

Also with the orange service light being is that the only fault just that one of my headlamps is out? It couldn't be anything else could it?

I've attached pics hoping you can help. Thanks
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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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Welcome along.

Pretty sure that's an HID (Xenon) lamp, but stick up the vin (it will hide itself) and we can check.

Most likely the service light is only associated with the bulb, but you will only know for sure once the bulb is changed.
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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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Yes, those are Xenon’s but there are several variations, but they are recommended to be changed in pairs.
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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 09 Jan 2024, 12:26 Yes, those are Xenon’s but there are several variations, but they are recommended to be changed in pairs.
The handbook states only use d1s-35w then if they are xenon ones.

But when I go onto Halfords and type my reg in it only brings up h7-477 models of bulb, would they still work fine? As the description says those are halogen ones. So I'm guessing Halfords don't stock xenon ones 🤔
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No, and avoid Halfords, they're generally useless along with their databases.

As requested, please pop your VIN up and we'll be able to advise. Please post your VIN in full without spaces - it will be automatically masked from public view after submitting your post & will only be visible to staff.
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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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RichardW wrote: 09 Jan 2024, 10:35 Welcome along.

Pretty sure that's an HID (Xenon) lamp, but stick up the vin (it will hide itself) and we can check.

Most likely the service light is only associated with the bulb, but you will only know for sure once the bulb is changed.
Vin is VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]


On Halfords when I type in my reg it only seems to give me halogen style ones h7-477 would they still work or? As I can't seem to find any on Halfords that work with my reg that are xenon ones 🤔
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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 09 Jan 2024, 15:13 No, and avoid Halfords, they're generally useless along with their databases.

As requested, please pop your VIN up and we'll be able to advise. Please post your VIN in full without spaces - it will be automatically masked from public view after submitting your post & will only be visible to staff.
Done on previous post.

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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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Ok, I stand corrected - I was going to ask if that was your actual car as it is showing a projector lens type which are generally only used with Xenon-equipped vehicles, which after confirming with the VIN you do not have.

It seems the bulbs they are using is a "Premium xenon Style" bulb behind a projector lens, so they are in fact halogens fitted to your vehicle.

Now what this means in practice is that you have several choices of bulb you can fit:

Dipped Beam
H7 L 12V-55W Standard Halogen
H7 12V-55W PREMIUM XL LIFE
H7 12V-55W PREMIUM XENON STYLE

Main Beam
H1 12V-55W Halogen

So I suggest you go to somewhere like Powerbulbs and put in your make model and year, and check out the LEGAL H7 and H1 bulbs. They generally have a better selection and keen pricing:

https://www.powerbulbs.com/vehicles/car ... ight-bulbs
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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 09 Jan 2024, 15:30 Ok, I stand corrected - I was going to ask if that was your actual car as it is showing a projector lens type which are generally only used with Xenon-equipped vehicles, which after confirming with the VIN you do not have.

It seems the bulbs they are using is a "Premium xenon Style" bulb behind a projector lens, so they are in fact halogens fitted to your vehicle.

Now what this means in practice is that you have several choices of bulb you can fit:

Dipped Beam
H7 L 12V-55W Standard Halogen
H7 12V-55W PREMIUM XL LIFE
H7 12V-55W PREMIUM XENON STYLE

Main Beam
H1 12V-55W Halogen

So I suggest you go to somewhere like Powerbulbs and put in your make model and year, and check out the LEGAL H7 and H1 bulbs. They generally have a better selection and keen pricing:

https://www.powerbulbs.com/vehicles/car ... ight-bulbs
What about euro car parts would they do similar?

So I don't actually need a xenon bulb? I can use a halogen one based off my vin?

Would something like this be ok?

https://www.eurocarparts.com/car-bulb?F ... gy=Halogen

Neolux H1 (448) 12v 55w 1 Pin - Single Bulb
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Re Powerbulbs, always click on the 'Specification tab when viewing a bulb. This gives all the details including whether they are road legal and in the case of the 'OSRAM Cool Blue Boost' they are NOT legal, so no you can't use those.

Basically it's up to you, as long as they are H7 for the dipped and H1 for the mainbeam they will fit. All you have to do is select a brand and whether you want an enhanced bulb with a brighter whiter light that is legal.

I.e
Osram Night Breaker Twin Pack 150 Brighter £15.99
https://www.powerbulbs.com/product/osra ... on-h1-twin

More options here:
https://www.powerbulbs.com/store/search ... ad%20legal

The thing to remember is that the brighter they are (within the legal limits), the less life you will get out of them. That is the trade off. However, you don't really want to be left with a measly yellowish stock bulb that looks terrible and barely lights up the kerb which is what a lot of the standard cheaper halogens are. They'll last longer but not much good if you can't see anything.
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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 09 Jan 2024, 16:42 Re Powerbulbs, always click on the 'Specification tab when viewing a bulb. This gives all the details including whether they are road legal and in the case of the 'OSRAM Cool Blue Boost' they are NOT legal, so no you can't use those.

Basically it's up to you, as long as they are H7 for the dipped and H1 for the mainbeam they will fit. All you have to do is select a brand and whether you want an enhanced bulb with a brighter whiter light that is legal.

I.e
Osram Night Breaker Twin Pack 150 Brighter £15.99
https://www.powerbulbs.com/product/osra ... on-h1-twin

More options here:
https://www.powerbulbs.com/store/search ... ad%20legal

The thing to remember is that the brighter they are (within the legal limits), the less life you will get out of them. That is the trade off. However, you don't really want to be left with a measly yellowish stock bulb that looks terrible and barely lights up the kerb which is what a lot of the standard cheaper halogens are. They'll last longer but not much good if you can't see anything.
Hi mate. Thanks for help so far you've been great I'm a total novice forums like this are a godsend.

Would this be ok?

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/osram-ul ... -48177022u

Osram Ultra Life H7 Headlight Bulb With 4 x Longer Lifetime Twin Pack

Or this one


https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/osram-ni ... -48177017x


One is listed is a h7 and the other is listed as a h1


Not sure if that would be ok? As I have a euro car parts round the corner from me so easier to return if it's the wrong one 😂
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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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Your Dipped Beam Headlamp bulbs are H7 and your Main Beam bulbs are H1 - so don't mix them up.

The H7 ones linked above are ok, but they won't be very bright - because the emphasis is on lifespan rather than improved lighting. Again, your choice, so depends on what you are trying to achieve - a basic replacement or an equivalent or improvement on your existing bulbs.

If your H1 Main bean is working, there's not need to change them unless you want an upgrade, but those H1s are also fine for your Main Beam bulbs if you need them.

Remember, whichever bulbs you buy, NEVER touch the bulb with your bare skin when fitting. Always wear latex gloves or similar to avoid getting oil from your skin on the bulbs, as this can shortlen the life of the bulb.
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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 10 Jan 2024, 00:00 Your Dipped Beam Headlamp bulbs are H7 and your Main Beam bulbs are H1 - so don't mix them up.

The H7 ones linked above are ok, but they won't be very bright - because the emphasis is on lifespan rather than improved lighting. Again, your choice, so depends on what you are trying to achieve - a basic replacement or an equivalent or improvement on your existing bulbs.

If your H1 Main bean is working, there's not need to change them unless you want an upgrade, but those H1s are also fine for your Main Beam bulbs if you need them.

Remember, whichever bulbs you buy, NEVER touch the bulb with your bare skin when fitting. Always wear latex gloves or similar to avoid getting oil from your skin on the bulbs, as this can shortlen the life of the bulb.
What is my main beam? I have my daytime running lights (the ones that run down the side of the main headlight) which are fine, the notice on my dash said 'check dipped headlamps' so I don't actually know if it's just the dipped headlamps that have gone or the main beam too? Is the main beam the one where you flick it in case of fog and the light on dash turns blue?

Sorry buddy I feel like an idiot I've not got a clue, I'm not sure if you can tell from the pics I uploaded of which bulb is actually out, the dash info is telling me its the dipped lamps so I can only guess it's those.


So would these be ok?

https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/philips- ... -48177022s

These state 150% brighter and are h7 so should fit my dipped headlamps yes? Would these be as bright as my current ones or similar?
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Re: Orange service light check dipped headlamps

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I think you need to have a read through your owner's manual - all the info is there.
Is the main beam the one where you flick it in case of fog and the light on dash turns blue?
No, the mainbeam is switched on for distance lighting (never when there is fog). Main bean is switched on when you pull the lighting stalk forwards and switched off when you repeat, but are indicated when the blue lamp is on in the dash. You use Fog Lamps for the fog.
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1. Main beam headlamps (H1).
2. Dipped beam headlamps (H7).
3. Daytime running lamps / sidelamps
(LEDs).
4. Direction indicators (HY21).
5. Directional foglamps (H11).

I can't advise as to which bulb you need if you don't know which one has gone.

Just switch the headlamps on and activate main beam, then get out and take a look at which bulb is not working - that will tell you as per the diagram.
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