1.6 hdi engine replacement

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1.6 hdi engine replacement

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Hi

I have a 2012 Berlingo 1.6hdi. Unfortunately due to a water leak, and an overheating incident, it is showing all the classic signs of a warped head and as such needs to be replaced.

It is the 110bhp version which I understand has the 9HL engine code. I've looked around and can find plenty of the engines, but most use a different engine code, mainly 9HX. My understanding is that the difference between the 2 engine types is the ancillaries used (turbo, manifolds etc). I intend to strip the engine down to pretty much bare and swap all ancillaries from my engine over to the new one so I was just wondering if the bare engine will be the same across all citroen 1.6hdi engine or are there suttle differences that would stop me being able to swap it all over?

Many thanks in advance for any help.
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Re: 1.6 hdi engine replacement

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The 110 also has code 9HZ and I suspect there are a few other variants.

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Re: 1.6 hdi engine replacement

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Thanks for the speedy reply. I've just upgraded my membership as requested.

My VIN is VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff].

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Is there anyway to check compatability if I can find the reg of the donor vehicle?

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Ok so you have a BERLINGO PRIVATE VEHICLE (B9) FAMILY SALOON 1.6 HDI 115 (DV6C) Manual gearbox 5.
Tom Engine.PNG
New Engine, marking (9H05), part: 0135TQ, £9,842.95
Exchange Engine, marking (9H05), part: 0139XK, £4,012.72

The above prices are VAT inclusive from Citroen of course!

So if you search on either of these part numbers, you should be able to find a replacement on the second hand market.

Example here:

Any future parts requests Tom, just pop the requirement on this thread (which is not for technical questions, but just parts).

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Re: 1.6 hdi engine replacement

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WelshTom wrote: 20 May 2023, 09:08 Is there anyway to check compatability if I can find the reg of the donor vehicle?

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I can only check if you have the VIN, but first Google the part numbers I've provided, and see what you come up with. You then have the marking too which will confirm.
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Re: 1.6 hdi engine replacement

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A quick Google just to confirm, 9HX = earlier 16 valve version of the 1.6 DV6 engine.

From image Marc has fetched up, representing your engine= the later 8 valve version of the DV6

As such, considerably different top end between the two!
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Re: 1.6 hdi engine replacement

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Hi everyone, thanks for your input. I'm so glad I asked as I was about to press the buy it now on a 9HK engine!

Can I just ask if all DV6C engines are the same? I've found one locally which is a DV6C9 and the only other numbers he could supply were HR-9HD.

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No, they're not the same, there are different variations of theses egines too.
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And there was me thinking that since this engine is used in millions of cars finding a replacement would be cheap and easy :cry:

I've located an engine which is stamped 9H05 and listed as a DV6C, but the company supplying it say they have checked my VIN and that it won't fit my vehicle.

Would it be possible to check that using thr VIN of the donor vehicle which is VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]?
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Ok, so the donor VIN you provided above is for a C4 PICASSO ESTATE - LEISURE 1.6 HDI 115 (DV6C) piloted manual gearbox 6, but although the marking is the same, it has different part numbers (0135QY - New Engine & 0139WQ - Exchange Engine), so they are correct there Tom.

These people seem to have one:

https://parts.tynesideautomotive.co.uk/0139xk
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Thanks for coming back to me so quickly. I'll be honest, that engine is way out of my price point. The vehicle is probably worth less than £3k so a second hand one costing around £600 is the only option by the time I factor in fitting it etc.

Do you know what the difference between the 2 would be?
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WelshTom wrote: 23 May 2023, 14:49 Thanks for coming back to me so quickly. I'll be honest, that engine is way out of my price point. The vehicle is probably worth less than £3k so a second hand one costing around £600 is the only option by the time I factor in fitting it etc.

Do you know what the difference between the 2 would be?

Have a chat with these guys Tom, they're very knowledgeable in the van business and have been there for many years, might even have an engine tucked away in their large sheds, Ask for John Gethin.
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WelshTom wrote: 23 May 2023, 14:49 Thanks for coming back to me so quickly. I'll be honest, that engine is way out of my price point. The vehicle is probably worth less than £3k so a second hand one costing around £600 is the only option by the time I factor in fitting it etc.

Do you know what the difference between the 2 would be?
Hi Tom, unfortunately apart form the obvious things like the valves, power etc., I can't say, so can only advise on what engine is fitted to what with reference to the VIN.

You need to be wary of some places though as they'll rope the engines together and it's not something you want to be faffing about with if it's not correct.
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Re: 1.6 hdi engine replacement

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I am still so confused!

Lots of sellers are listing engines using all of the above part numbers for the same engine! 0135TQ, 0139XK, 0135QY and 0139WQ seem to be used interchangeably depending on how they are feeling! An eBay search on 0135TQ brings up the last engine you checked for me as it is listed with that part number too! Would you be able to do another check against a VIN please? VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] it's another C4 Picasso but the seller has listed it with part number 0135TQ.

Why do manufacturers have to make life so difficult, I'm pretty sure that down at the bare engine level, most of these are the same with different ancillaries, manifolds, turbos etc fitted to them!