Rear Axle replacement - M59 Partner

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Rear Axle replacement - M59 Partner

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Good day everyone

I am looking at replacing the rear axle on my VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] PARTNER VU (M59) SHORT VAN '600' 1.9 D 71 (DW8B)

Is there a difference between the Peugeot '800' axle and the '600' axle. In other words, will either fit with no modifications?

I am hopeful that somoene has some experience with this and can assist.

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If you're talking about the rear suspension crossmember here shown as item (1), then yes they have the same part number for the 600 and 800 vans:
off rear axle.PNG
Original part now superseded: 5148G1
Replacement Part: 9830149780
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GiveMeABreak wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 15:55
If you're talking about the rear suspension crossmember here shown as item (1), then yes they have the same part number for the 600 and 800 vans:

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Original part now superseded: 5148G1
Replacement Part: 9830149780
Thank you very much!

Same weight rating? Or does the 600/800 correspond to something else?
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It's the payload 600 or 800. The exact specs will be on your vehicle plate.

Here's a comparison - I've highlighted your vehicle column in green.
Versions1.1i1.4i1.9 D2.0 HDi
Payload600600 - 800600 - 800600 - 800
Kerb weight: (EEC )11081108 - 11101163 - 11751211
weight (Maximum weight allowed on the front axle )930930930 - 950 ( PLC )1000
weight (Maximum weight allowed on the rear axle )950950 - 1080970 - 1080970 - 1080
Gross vehicle weight (EEC )16901690 - 18401755 - 19551790 - 1990
Gross train weight24402590 - 27902855 - 30552890 - 3090
Maximum trailer weight: With lock (Pitch 12 )75090011001100
Maximum trailer weight: Without lock500500500500
Maximum load on the towing hitch (Max )70707070
weight (Maximum on the roof bars )100100100100
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I imagine the torsion bars 2 and 3 which provide the springing will be different
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Thanks everyone! Probably should replace all the bushings and bolts, etc. etc. - is there a kit that can be purchased for rear axle service/upgrade/refit?

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Don’t bother trying to repair yours, use these guys. http://abaxles.co.uk/en/about/ I’ve used them professionally a number of times, fully recon, ready to fit, delivered to your door.
What happens on these Pug axles, is the needle roller bearings break up and damages the cross shaft. Plus it’s right pain removing the torsion bars and then resetting the ride hight.
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Ohfishalee wrote:
12 Jul 2022, 00:13
Thanks everyone! Probably should replace all the bushings and bolts, etc. etc. - is there a kit that can be purchased for rear axle service/upgrade/refit?

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To be clear, from what i can see, all the refurbished axles seem to come as the axle only, no new brake lines, bushings, bolts, etc.

I wouldn't expect them to come with any number of required parts as each vehicle is different. My question is - is there a kit that encompasses some of the basic fitting kit required ?
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GiveMeABreak wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 15:55
If you're talking about the rear suspension crossmember here shown as item (1), then yes they have the same part number for the 600 and 800 vans:

Image

Original part now superseded: 5148G1
Replacement Part: 9830149780
I suspect that I will need parts numbered as follows:

5, 10, 70;

4, 7, 8, 9, 13

Just for starters.

My underside is pretty rusty so I anticipate some of the bolts may need replacing.

It is a long, expensive journey from UK to Bermuda for some of these parts so I want to be prepared!!!! [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o<
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Whoops !!! I missed you are in Bermuda, ignore my suggestion of the UK a company.
I still say fitting a recon’ assembly is your best bet, but getting one closer to home may be a problem.
Perhaps a “good” 2nd hand one? Trying to strip and rebuild yours you will be on a hiding for nothing.
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Ohfishalee wrote:
12 Jul 2022, 23:26
GiveMeABreak wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 15:55
If you're talking about the rear suspension crossmember here shown as item (1), then yes they have the same part number for the 600 and 800 vans:

Image

Original part now superseded: 5148G1
Replacement Part: 9830149780
I suspect that I will need parts numbered as follows:

5, 10, 70;

4, 7, 8, 9, 13

Just for starters.

My underside is pretty rusty so I anticipate some of the bolts may need replacing.

It is a long, expensive journey from UK to Bermuda for some of these parts so I want to be prepared!!!! [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o<

IS THERE A COMPREHENSIVE REPAIR KIT THAT COVERS THE USUAL BITS AND BOBS THAT NEED REPLACING WHEN A COMPLETE AXLE IS BEING SWAPPED FOR THE DUFF ONE?
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Ordered the refurbished axle and also some of the ancillary parts to include:

Brake pipes and hoses for non-ABS drum brakes

Brake shoes and cylinders

Axle beam mount x2

Now needing the following:


Screenshot_20220807-112953_Chrome.jpg
421176, 421276, 424724 (unsure if new part numbers)
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Ohfishalee wrote:
12 Jul 2022, 23:26
GiveMeABreak wrote:
09 Jul 2022, 15:55


Image

Original part now superseded: 5148G1
Replacement Part: 9830149780

I still need highlighted parts numbered as follows:

10, 70, 4, 7, 8, 9, 13

Having a hard time finding bolts/screws!!
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Her you are:
off bits.PNG
(4) 513147, £56.68
(7) 515135, £2.99
(8) 514424, £6.05
(9) 515324, £3.42
(10) 515325, £4.74
(13) 514607, £6.14
(70) 5132A7, £2.99

As for the rear brake components (421176, 421276, 424724), they are the same part numbers - no changes to date.