New Citroen C5 X

[GiveMeABreak]

I keep getting emails from Citroen regarding the C5 X, so thought I'd put a link here for members that may not be aware of it.

Unfortunately I'm not all that impressed with the presentation. It's all a bit too scripted and very light on technical detail, with most of the time the presenter is faffing about with the light graphics

With only 52 views at the time of this posting, it's a bit woeful, and no test drive to boot.

Very disappointed with the Hybrid Plug In, with a paltry 34 miles range and 2 hour charging - that wouldn't get me to the shops and back

So not really a lot to shout about and the infotainment screen looks horrendous in that Cyan and a bit slow to react.

So personally, not that impressed and no diesel now.....

[citroenguy]

Very sadly made in china..

Will therefore never buy one, and no other chinese made car. Due to political and humanitarian reasons.

A Citroën should be made en France!! (or possibly spain and belgium)

[GiveMeABreak]

Indeed - it seems many others are also doing this:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... asia-sales

[myglaren]

While I am not concerned about it being made in China, it looks too much like all the other stuff available now and I hate them. Would much rather a 'proper' car, like a CX for instance.
A somewhat hypocritical statement considering that I have a Civic.

[white exec]

The Chinese already make some good stuff, and quality has improved in the same way that "Made in Japan" was once a byword for cheap-and-cheerful, until Sony, Asahi-Pentax, Savin, Epson, Canon, Minolta and others became the best to be had. No-one can doubt the Chinese ability to have produced BEVs - including BYD and their buses - in quantity, and seemingly at very acceptable quality.

Interesting that China has in some ways rejected low-electric-range (hybrid) EVs - eg Prius - on the grounds that they offer no solution to the air quality problem. Making such vehicles for Europe is obviously another matter, though, although it will have been Stellantis that decided to go with this one.

The promotional video is curious: wooden, almost robotic, and concentrating principally on the cosmetics. Pretty much dumbed down, and maybe intended for sellers, as much as public consumption. Well dumbed down, for what I think is a car of no great contribution to the situation we're now all in.

The ethical objection to 'buying Chinese' remains, though.

[jamescarruthers]

Good to know that the chunky wheel arches are shaped and machined with exact precision. What have all previous Citroens had to put up with, just cut by hand with tin snips?

The video is a bit of an amateurish joke, yes.

[Gregor]

IMHO Citroen lost the track and compass in last couple of years . This WTB "SUV-s" are getting really annoying. I just want a tourer, limo or coupe...

[NewcastleFalcon]

Good to know that the chunky wheel arches are shaped and machined with exact precision. What have all previous Citroens had to put up with, just cut by hand with tin snips?

Nice observation James

Unsurprisingly, I have nothing positive to add about the "Stellantis Irrelevant" C5X, the export of emissions to China to make the thing, or its delivery mileage of over 6,000 miles by large car transporter vessel running on bunker fuel to reach to the shores of Europe. Suspect blind eyes will be turned, and exceptions granted should any potential trade barriers and tariffs be erected to protect Europe from an invasion of Chinese cars. The double chevrons on the grill should see to that.

Stellantis at the cutting edge of innovation in 2021

Regards Neil

[Sloppysod]

Very disappointed with the Hybrid Plug In, with a paltry 34 miles range and 2 hour charging - that wouldn't get me to the shops and back

Thougherly agree especially as BMW PHEV does near on 60 mile per charge! and just think how far you will get in the winter when its cold..............of the drive perhaps!!

While I am not concerned about it being made in China, it looks too much like all the other stuff available now and I hate them. Would much rather a 'proper' car, like a CX for instance.

We can only but dream!!

IMHO Citroen lost the track and compass in last couple of years . This WTB "SUV-s" are getting really annoying. I just want a tourer, limo or coupe...

yep!!

I am sorry to say I clicked on the link to show interest as I will be up for a new car soon, and really want to know how the supension behaves under a heavy car, hopefully I can waste a little time and get a test drive. I have no intention of buying a PHEV. Waiting to drive the Ariya & MeganE sometime next year

I think Stellantis are so far behind the curve that they will be a shaddow of themselves in 10 years, if they are still around.........!

[GiveMeABreak]

Unsurprisingly, I have nothing positive to add about the "Stellantis Irrelevant" C5X, the export of emissions to China to make the thing, or its delivery mileage of over 6,000 miles by large car transporter vessel running on bunker fuel to reach to the shores of Europe.

Regards Neil

And that is one of my concerns - all these climate protesters having a meltdown about UK emissions and disrupting UK citizens, but no mention of China or the 100 coal plants I think they are planning to open next year...

A serious reality check is needed by this fraternity.

[Xantippa]

Terrible. No more Citroen after C5 X7 for me.

[mickthemaverick]

Terrible. No more Citroen after C5 X7 for me.

Like Steve I've already opted out of Citroen after my decision to get out of diesel. I am very happy with my two Japanese steeds and am biding my time until a fully electric option that I like comes into my price range. Very sad though as I loved every one of my 11 owned and many more serviced Citroens and should they ever bring out a new proper saloon/estate with viable propulsion I will consider it!!

[GiveMeABreak]

I've found a little more info on the suspension system. Non Hybrid models have the standard Progressive Hydraulic Cushions, and the Hybrid version only will have the 'active' version:

New Citroën C5 X is equipped, as standard, with Citroën Advanced Comfort® suspension, a Citroën innovation that filters out road imperfections to ensures a smoother and more relaxed journey – as if you were on a ‘flying carpet’. By incorporating efficient double hydraulic cushions for both rebound and compression, New C5 X is able to deliver a very composed ride.

New C5 X Hybrid takes comfort even further with Citroën Active Advanced Comfort® suspension, offering continuous active control over the suspension system. New C5 X Hybrid offers maximum comfort to its occupants at all times, thanks to sensors that analyse the road surface to determine the firmness of the suspension settings for each wheel. Active suspension control reinforces the efficiency of the Progressive Hydraulic Cushions® whilst reducing body roll and guaranteeing body support when carrying heavy loads. This technology ensures superior on-board comfort for all.

It goes without saying these are not self-levelling systems. Having drive the new C4 with the basic version of the above, it is quite comfortable, so I have no complaints about the ride:- although it will never be the same as a Hydropneumatic / Hydractive vehicle, it's better than standard springs and struts.

[Gregor]

I'm glad I'm not the only one disappointed by Citroen new stuff... Though it doesn't help a lot. After 40 years in a close relation with these machines, I'm out searching for a new "babe". It feels almost like a divorce after a long happy marriage!

[Sloppysod]

I just recieved an email saying I could, if I wanted, pre-order my New C5-X.
As my circumstances changed last year I was really tempted....for a while........ but why would I buy a car that will only run on its battery for maximum of 30 miles, because things like weather, driving style and battery age will reduced this theorectally range.

Needless to say I did not proceed, however, could not see anything about price!!