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Hit too hard. oh bugger!

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So the long running saga that is my Citroen C5 has reached another problem.

I had a local guy come and take off the hub carrier/wheel bearing housing ?? (Don't know what its called) to remove the old hub and push in a new bearing and new hub. He then fitted it back and all looks good.

I have come to refit the calliper and it would seem that the hub carrier is now bent as the calliper mounting bracket is now lightly scuffing the brake disk.

I checked the good side with a steel rule and they are straight and true. I checked this side and the lower bolt hole is showing a slight bend towards the disk.

Im going to ask a stupid question now. Can I just bash it back? Or will it dangerously weaken it?

What is the official name of this part just incase I have to find another. Couldn't happen at a worse time as I need to get to see ageing Father who's not long for this world.

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You'll need to pop your VIN up so I can get you the correct part numbers, but here's the diagram to help you identify the components:
X7 Pivots.PNG

Let me know the number on the diagram for the part numbers when you post your VIN.

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Hi. On the diagram its part A and the VIN is VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

Do you know what this is made from? Is it an alloy? Surprised it bent but then he was knocking it out with a club hammer.

Thank you.

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Ok, so A is not available from Citroen separately. The Front Swivel Pin comes complete with items A, D, 3 & 14.

The Kit for the Right side is Part number: 1640790480, £364.45
The Kit for the Left side is Part number: 1640790280, £334.15

All prices inc. VAT direct from Citroen.

I can't tell you what it is made of unfortunately.

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Thanks Marc. Is it worth trying a bit of a knock with a club hammer to get it back to where it should be? I'm only out just over 1mm.

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I'd be a bit concerned to be honest - I mean they are paranoid as it is about the components when changing the front pivot lower ball joint:
  • Do not carry the strengthening strut by the ball joint.
  • Do not pivot the ball joint extensively, observe the small amplitudes of operation.
  • Any parts which have suffered impacts, fallen on the ground, must not be used.
  • The position of the ball joint on delivery must not be modified (Inner race of the bearing at the bottom of the clamp ).
  • During handling, the seal must be protected against any cuts or tears.
  • Keep the part in a clean environment (Protect against the entry of contamination into the inner diameter ).
At the end of the day this is your suspension geometry that has an impact on the stability / braking / steering. They're really not designed to be bashed about to be honest.

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OK. Thank you. Ive found an alternative in France for 240 euros so its a bit cheaper. Thank you for your prompt help. So without tapping it how are you supposed to get them off and on?

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Officially they use a press to extract and insert the bearings. But it depends on what procedure you are removing / refitting:

Front Pivot
Front Pivot - Lower Ball Joint
Front Pivot - Support, Flexible Bushes
Front Pivot - Upper Ball Joint
Front Suspension - Lower Arm
etc....

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I had the whole assemble removed so it could get a press for putting in the bearing. This was done by removing the 3 torx head bolts in the lower ball joint and then knocking the assembly out so it slid off the top ball joint bolt. Is there a proper way of doing this?

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I'm sure I've put a procedure up somewhere - if not I'll see if I get time tomorrow - Lower Ball Joint procedure yes?

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Well its the removal of the whole assembly marked A on the diagram. As you point out they provide it complete with lower ball joint attached and also hub and bearing.
As this needs replacing I will just take it all out and put new one in.

Thank you very much.

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Ok, I'll put something up tomorrow for you ok.

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I thought I had put this up previously:

Here is the link to the procedure for the Front Pivot Lower Ball Joint:

viewtopic.php?p=597726#p597726

I'll look for the other one on the Pivot itself.

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I've just put the Guide up for the Front Pivot here:

viewtopic.php?t=65718

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Thanks for that. It almost always is easier in theory than in practice. 😀