Have I just been unlucky... or are French Cars a bit Cr*p?

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Have I just been unlucky... or are French Cars a bit Cr*p?

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Hello

I have owned a Citroen Nemo for about 6 years and I like the car when it's working, I also think the engine is very sweet and economical.

However even though I drive only 7000 miles a year with local trips only, during my ownership there have been a number of problems.

For example replacement of both coil springs, bearings, both CV joints, ball joints, tailgate lock, Fuel cap remote and the tracking keeps falling out of alignment.

Previously I owned a Mazda and had to a lot of long distance driving for work. Over 10 years I did 200,000 miles in that car and nothing went wrong with it!... apart from the obvious replacements like tyres, exhaust and battery. No suspension problems of any kind.

Have I just been unlucky, or are French cars (or just the Citroen Nemo) just a bit Cr*ppy? :wink: :)

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Re: Have I just been unlucky... or are French Cars a bit Cr*p?

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Nope, you are correct but for one thing/one word... It is European cars that are all ***t, not just the French ones. :)

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Re: Have I just been unlucky... or are French Cars a bit Cr*p?

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Only comparable experience I have to your Citroen nemo is driving a little Peugeot Bipper van..

It had an awful bouncy ride, not pleasant :)

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Re: Have I just been unlucky... or are French Cars a bit Cr*p?

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vonsworld wrote:
04 Dec 2019, 17:19
Hello

I have owned a Citroen Nemo for about 6 years and I like the car when it's working, I also think the engine is very sweet and economical.

However even though I drive only 7000 miles a year with local trips only, during my ownership there have been a number of problems.

For example replacement of both coil springs, bearings, both CV joints, ball joints, tailgate lock, Fuel cap remote and the tracking keeps falling out of alignment.

Previously I owned a Mazda and had to a lot of long distance driving for work. Over 10 years I did 200,000 miles in that car and nothing went wrong with it!... apart from the obvious replacements like tyres, exhaust and battery. No suspension problems of any kind.

Have I just been unlucky, or are French cars (or just the Citroen Nemo) just a bit Cr*ppy? :wink: :)
It's not really a Citroen!

These are rebadged Fiats (Fiorino), made in by Tofaş in Bursa, Turkey and also called the Peugeot Bipper, as well as the Citroen Nemo :-D

There's nothing French about them to be honest - all they will have is a few cosmetic changes to headlights and styling strips to make them look a bit different.

Look familiar?
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Citroen NemoPeugeot BipperFiat Fiorino

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Re: Have I just been unlucky... or are French Cars a bit Cr*p?

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While Japanese vehicles have an enviable reputation for reliability I think you've been very unlucky. All my French cars have been exceptionally good to me even though, at present they are all off the road: the 2CV needs a chassis (it broke its back in the Czech republic, but after being patched up I drove it back on the £50 engine I'd put in it the day before I went which was really only good for the trip); the C15 was as cheap as chips (from some backstreet we by any car type outfit) & after sorting out the brakes (well, adjusting the rears), the front end (both TCA's + track rod ends, while I was at it) & a precautionary cam belt, etc - at some silly mileage (after its 1st visit to Berlin) until now the only real problem was the clutch failing. Mega mileage (7,000 in last 3 or 4 months) on oil, filter & pad changes. The Xantia was even cheaper &, after a maiden voyage to Maastricht, has faithfully served as a family hack having only had one filter change + a 2nd oil change. When I removed n/s f wheel for some pre-MoT work (i.e. last year's advisories) I found a problem with the bottom swivel which, so far, has defeated me. Big disappointment that because we'd already decided that if it got through the MoT, we'd treat it to some tyres, have the n/s r wheel-arch patched up & keep it another year.

2 other big differences between our experiences: age of the vehicles & their use.