2001 Berlingo seats

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2001 Berlingo seats

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Firstly in an effort to improve my 01 bingo I bought some seats from a 2017 model.
Anyone done this conversion ?
I know I’ll have to make a beaker but that’s no problem.
Secondly, before I fit these I need to put the old ones back in but didn’t note where the plastic spacers went. Doh !
Anyone know ?
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Re: 2001 Berlingo seats

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No idea what a beaker is cos I typed bracket !
Anyway, looking at these new seats, there’s only drivers seat that has wire to seatbelt clip.
Also, there’s no pretensioners fitted unless they’re on the belt end.
So, do I need them ? Insurance might be bit touchy if I haven got them ?
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Re: 2001 Berlingo seats

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Your likely trying to mix seats designed with side airbags. The pretensioners are fitted into the anchored portion of the seat belts if fitted. There are 2 types with and without pretensioners.

As for the seat - if you have the outer section with this panel and a small label - then it has a seat airbag.
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Basically if you are modding any part of your car - but especially anything that concerns safety devices you really do need to let insurance know or you are effectively asking for trouble.

Obviously you can't connect a seat with airbag to a vehicle without the system - but be aware that you still have the explosives inside the seat, so don't be connecting the wires anywhere soon.
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Re: 2001 Berlingo seats

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No airbags fitted. As it’s a campervan I may not have some of the issues with insurance that may affect more standard vehicles. It’s quite common for owners to swap seats and fit something more comfortable.
I will inform the insurance and will consider fitting either the other part of the belt to match the seat, or fit the pretensioners from the old seats to the new seats. I’m just confused as to why there’s no connection to seatbelt on passenger side ?
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Re: 2001 Berlingo seats

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May have something to do with vans rarely carrying passengers (doesn't seem so long ago the seat was an optional extra)
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Re: 2001 Berlingo seats

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Martinez wrote:
12 May 2019, 09:02
No airbags fitted. As it’s a campervan I may not have some of the issues with insurance that may affect more standard vehicles. It’s quite common for owners to swap seats and fit something more comfortable.
I will inform the insurance and will consider fitting either the other part of the belt to match the seat, or fit the pretensioners from the old seats to the new seats. I’m just confused as to why there’s no connection to seatbelt on passenger side ?
You can't just go and fit pre-tensioners! The system is integrated with other components and the Airbag ECU. If they are not fitted as standard leave them. As for the seats if you didn't have side airbags in the original seats, then ignore the connections for those on the new ones. Trying to connect something containing a pyrotechnic that should not be connected is a sure way to trigger it unexpectedly potentially being lethal.
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Re: 2001 Berlingo seats

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Sorry should have been clearer, neither seats have airbags so not an issue.
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Re: 2001 Berlingo seats

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It’s been a while, but I’ve really got to get these seats sorted. After lots of design changes I finally settled on the best way to fit the 2016 seats to the 2001 van. Major issue was trying to keep the flip up option. After numerous attempts I realised it was a no go, so a more simple design where they’re just welded to new mounting plates bolted onto the original chassis points. A major problem I encountered was the angle of the seats bases. But I’ve made the new brackets to take this into account. Still stuck on the seat belts though. There are 3 options I can see. 1. Weld some plates onto the new brackets to bolt them onto. 2. Bolt them to the new seats where the newer unit fits (I’ve tried this and they do fit but will need a small bracket welding to the seat frame to secure) or 3. Try and fit the belts from a 2016 model Bingo. That would be my preferred option. So anyone know if the newer seat belts will fit, and if not can I modify them or the van to make them fit ?
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Re: 2001 Berlingo seats

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I meant to post picture of the new seats but seems an age ago I did it. Anyway, Insurance Company didn’t charge me any extra for the new seats and the original pre tensioner fitted the new seats, only in different place and on opposite sides.