Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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Hi got the car in for the clutch as guy been waiting on for ages saying not having time plus not rushed either
Got all the bits inc guide tube Borg and Beck HKD0006 now place doing says it's wrong one as too long?
Got onto place got parts from they was checking and say yes and info where getting from is wrong as says my engine is a DW10 and they say is something like DYGK or could it be DVGK? neither heard of! and they gave me a part number said this one will be right one? FEBI 46008 yet when i checked on line alternate listed parts was the B&B HDK0006 again.

Tried to source one Euro poop don't do them w*****s so spoke to GSF said have one mate picked it up and took it to place and is same as one i'd already got!
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Was wondering if had worn it down when thrust race etc broke up and to me it looks a tad compressed also

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Re: Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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Post your VIN up if you want to know exactly what engine code you have and the clutch part numbers. Aftermarket parts databases are useless most of the time.

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Re: Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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GiveMeABreak wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 00:45
Post your VIN up if you want to know exactly what engine code you have and the clutch part numbers. Aftermarket parts databases are useless most of the time.



Hi found log book it is DYGK first letters on engine number.

VIN VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

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Re: Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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Part no:

2105 35

01
CLUTCH BUFFER GUIDE BUSH

This appears to be the only one used on the Xsara Pic and is used on loads of other Cits, but there is no mention of length. I would just fit the longer one, and as long as the box will mate up all good - if not, then drop the box back out and shorten it a bit.

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oscar wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 08:17
GiveMeABreak wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 00:45
Post your VIN up if you want to know exactly what engine code you have and the clutch part numbers. Aftermarket parts databases are useless most of the time.



Hi found log book it is DYGK first letters on engine number.

VIN VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]
So for future reference, your Picasso’s engine code is DW10TD, what you posted is not the code, but part of the engine serial number.

Richard has given you the guide part number. If you need other parts, let us know.

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Re: Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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GiveMeABreak wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 09:32
oscar wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 08:17
GiveMeABreak wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 00:45
Post your VIN up if you want to know exactly what engine code you have and the clutch part numbers. Aftermarket parts databases are useless most of the time.



Hi found log book it is DYGK first letters on engine number.

VIN VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]
So for future reference, your Picasso’s engine code is DW10TD, what you posted is not the code, but part of the engine serial number.

Richard has given you the guide part number. If you need other parts, let us know.



Hi many thanks it also comes back as other number i have already as alternate part via B&B.
Me thinks ones doing don't have a clue! just putting them side by side instead of checking fit?

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Re: Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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RichardW wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 09:13
Part no:

2105 35

01
CLUTCH BUFFER GUIDE BUSH

This appears to be the only one used on the Xsara Pic and is used on loads of other Cits, but there is no mention of length. I would just fit the longer one, and as long as the box will mate up all good - if not, then drop the box back out and shorten it a bit.


Hi many thanks for that part number does follow one i have from B&B also!
Could the tube get worn as thrust race parts break up? it did used to get stuck down a bit on release sometimes you needed to flick pedal up which we thought was spring on pedal box?
What would sometimes become notchy when using clutch and hard to push pedal down sometimes.

In pic does look a bit concertinaed.

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Personally I always get the original part number against the VIN. From this is makes it so much easier to search on and get the right equivalent aftermarket part. Engine codes are not always helpful as their databases are invariably out of date or just plain wrong - just like a Haynes manual. :-D

If you need any parts, it only takes a second or two to ask here and as we have your VIN now, it will be very quick to get these for you.

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Re: Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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GiveMeABreak wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 15:14
Personally I always get the original part number against the VIN. From this is makes it so much easier to search on and get the right equivalent aftermarket part. Engine codes are not always helpful as their databases are invariably out of date or just plain wrong - just like a Haynes manual. :-D

If you need any parts, it only takes a second or two to ask here and as we have your VIN now, it will be very quick to get these for you.



Hi thanks for help.
Rang them and says fixed they got one in from somewhere? but can't see how wrong as all parts come back to same number! be it Febi/B&B/GSF and looked at that number given here which listed on flea bay had 140 pages listed it fits so many cars all types also.

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Yes, eBay parts list is a joke. I’ve tested it countless times and it’s rarely correct.

Most decent manufacturers have their own parts catalogue like Valeo, Bosch, LUK, Magneti Marelli etc., and they often list the OEM part number and then their equivalent part number.

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Re: Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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GiveMeABreak wrote:
30 Apr 2019, 21:15
Yes, eBay parts list is a joke. I’ve tested it countless times and it’s rarely correct.

Most decent manufacturers have their own parts catalogue like Valeo, Bosch, LUK, Magneti Marelli etc., and they often list the OEM part number and then their equivalent part number.


The place did list by OE number also plus other makers.
Ebay it's self is an issue! as say's part don't fit yet when scroll through it's in there listing!

Other thing while at it N/S/R brake sticks on when braking first time but was stuck on when tried to move it other day.
Also flexi that side need to change was in process doing before clutch failed but needed a brake crows foot as the brake spanners can't get in at that angle to reach ok on other end.
did think of undoing from cylinder and other end then unbolt plate it fixes to remove and refit with new pipe!

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Re: Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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Hi well went to collect car!
They said pedal on brakes not good "it's leaking fluid?" i did say was a tiny weep on rear pipe but only if hold pedal down so not a pool of it!
Well pedal was on floor moved it said there isn't any brakes asked did you bleed them as res was totally empty.so said no point as leaking so much!

Erm so why is the mess at the front not the rear then? and when he said was lots i thought maybe pipe had broke? but after seeing it thought they must have caught one of the front pipes?

They said can't do pipe till next week £120!!

So got it round corner to where we was nothing showing at first then saw a spot then later a lot more did move car so could check looked clean!
Rang RAC Luckily i had done it yesterday as was with AA before till they took the proverbial pee!
Guy turned up was Top he looked said gearbox and said dripping from bell housing!
I also said engine management light was on a black smoking!
In the end he towed me round on the bar and they was still going on about brakes leaking but said as he had also to me once do clutch with res empty have to bleed brakes out as air gets in!.

so now have to wait to see what there going to come back with?

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Re: Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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Well they say done? it was drive shaft seal leaking but still won't bleed the brakes!

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Re: Xsara Picasso 2.0 HDI 2001

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Hi well got the car back and rear flexy pipe is replaced and all bled!

But notice handbrake seems to only work or best on one side as feel that side rise more as was rolling back but that side also sticks on so a job to factor in!

Also EM light is on but seems all ok thinking could that be from when Crank shaft sensor got munched by bits from clutch flying around.

Saw the clutch that came out arm had been on pressure plate and clutch tube was broken at base plate was down to rivets'ish!