If you're thinking about getting one of these....
...don't forget you'll need one of these...
... for the owner's manual
I was just looking at the latest developments over the water... 'Magic Body Control', 'Active Body Control', Crosswind Stabilisation', 'Magic Vision Control', blah, blah, blah, and all we want is our comfy suspension back please.
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And good luck with all that!
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Its interesting to see the focus of advertising. Not that impressed with that Audi offering from an academic point of view as I am never going to be one of Audi's target market. Modern Car advertising is more about more selling a lifestyle and less 0-60/mpg/ or how comfortable the seats are.
Take Hiro the DJ for example, lifestyle totally integrated with his car, and not even a steering wheel..
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Take Hiro the DJ for example, lifestyle totally integrated with his car, and not even a steering wheel..
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All rather familiar to those of us here with Hydractive!Stickyfinger wrote: ↑18 Oct 2017, 20:43LOL, even using the same camera angle
http://techcenter.mercedes-benz.com/en/abc/detail.html

What took them so long?
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They’ve all got active suspension systems and are constantly improving them. The new Audi one even runs on small electric motors. The point being there is still lots of development in the field, but PSA have lost interest and given up on active suspension. All that expertise down the drain.
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white exec wrote: ↑18 Oct 2017, 21:20All rather familiar to those of us here with Hydractive!Stickyfinger wrote: ↑18 Oct 2017, 20:43LOL, even using the same camera angle
http://techcenter.mercedes-benz.com/en/abc/detail.html![]()
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They had to wait until Citroen stop using it or would have sounded silly.....
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I still envy the ride of the SM Maserati - as seen in this 'The Smoking Tire' video of an American example - taking a chap out for a spin in one - you can just see how it wafts along...(ignore the first 25 seconds). Great if you have straightish roads - but who cares - lovely car and such poise and presence.
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The older and more laid-back I get, I want complex less and less in all spheres of my life, especially cars...
Nowadays even a Xantia is too complex... And as for my 207 with its multiplex and so on
Good job it seems to work...
I'm the same with bikes... I want nothing to do with disc brakes, electronic dérailleurs and the like...
I like simple and straightforward
Bring back carbs, points and wind-up windows I say
Nowadays even a Xantia is too complex... And as for my 207 with its multiplex and so on

I'm the same with bikes... I want nothing to do with disc brakes, electronic dérailleurs and the like...
I like simple and straightforward

Bring back carbs, points and wind-up windows I say

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I followed a rather nice 1.9TD 306 yesterday, and thought of you, Jim. Still an elegant car.
Had to smile at your "in all spheres..." Spoken as a real Citroeniste!
Know what you mean, though.
Had to smile at your "in all spheres..." Spoken as a real Citroeniste!
Know what you mean, though.
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white exec wrote: ↑19 Oct 2017, 05:56I followed a rather nice 1.9TD 306 yesterday, and thought of you, Jim.
Cracking cars Chris

Better car in my opinion than the 207 is... Seats are more comfy for a start!!!
I'd still have one in a heartbeat

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Best swap the SAXO for a PoV spec AX then Jim 

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Funny really, back along I lusted after high-specification cars with all the luxuries and toys and now I'm utterly just the opposite and adore poverty-spec and the more poverty the better

I'm not sure where and when or why the change happened... I think Gabriel (Gabby) had a big influence...
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I concur with Jim, the simpler the better, I run two 8 valve Hdi 406's and they very rarely wrong and if they do, so far I have been able to fix them.
I won't even buy and auto defrost fridge because it's the 'auto' bit that goes wrong and writes them off.
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I won't even buy and auto defrost fridge because it's the 'auto' bit that goes wrong and writes them off.
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Hey! You slagged me for adjusting points, carbs and rear brakes on my ser 11 Landy, saying you could not go back to thatBring back carbs, points and wind-up windows I say

Ach well...........we are all allowed to change our mind....as we get on a bit!
