Xantia P bush fitting
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Xantia P bush fitting
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Is there a knack to knowing the correct position for the front lower wish bone P bush to go on.? The arm i have already off the car doesnt haveca bush on it.. so i want to get the arm ready to do a swap over... but need to know what orientation and angle it needs to go on...
Thanks..
Is there a knack to knowing the correct position for the front lower wish bone P bush to go on.? The arm i have already off the car doesnt haveca bush on it.. so i want to get the arm ready to do a swap over... but need to know what orientation and angle it needs to go on...
Thanks..
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
Yes, and no Paul... I have a set of scrap ones I use as templates... Somewhere on here are some photos I took of them alignments of the bushes... If you can't find them, and I can't right now, I'm happy to take some more pictures to show exactly the alignment..
Basically, you can use the casting flash webs as alignment references...
Let me know if you want some pictures Paul
Basically, you can use the casting flash webs as alignment references...
Let me know if you want some pictures Paul
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
Casting flash webs!? What on xantia cars is that!??
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
Casting flash is the bits of metal that ooze out at the time of casting from the mould joints; the moulds are normally in two halves. Casting flashes are ground down as part of the finishing process but remain visible...
Do you want the pictures or not Paul?
If you do I'll take them and publish them and then you can see exactly what casting flash is
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
Paul, here's the pictures:
The 'casting flash' is the line you can see on the side of the arm
Hope this helps you to align the bushes Paul...
The 'casting flash' is the line you can see on the side of the arm
Hope this helps you to align the bushes Paul...
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
If it helps further heres an os arm with fairly new bushes.
My p bush is a little off. The flange sits parrallel to the ground both ways up when fitted correctly.-
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
Thanks guys. . Thats great. See if i can get remains of the old p bush off the arm. . The centre sleeve is still on the arm.. hammer and punch job i thinks..
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
Yep, works a treat for me... Use a blunt cold chisel and a 4lb club hammer
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
Thanks jim. Sorry for lack of response im in work..
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
No worries Paul Wish I was at or able to be at work
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
If it's stubborn I tend to drind a grind down it, the heat seems to help.
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
When I did the P-bush on the Xsara I ground a flat off the centre sleeve with an angle grinder. The sleeve then just fell off.
That was ten times easier than getting the new bush on to the arm though. With no press available I had to use a lump hammer and an impact socket to persuade the damn thing on. It made a huge difference to the feeling of the steering though. The amazing thing was that it had passed an MOT recently with suspension arm wobbling around in the remains of the P-bush.
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
You have to be ever so careful grinding it James. You must, on no account, mark the journal surface of the arm by accidentally going too deep with the grinder. Such marks can give rise to a stress-riser and this could lead to catastrophic failure of the arm.
A little heat is OK but not too much as this may affect any heat treatment carried out to improve the strength and/or fatigue life of the arm.
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Re: Xantia P bush fitting
Totally, thats why my spare ones carless. It has a grinder nick that i put into it many years ago.
Re: Xantia P bush fitting
I've nicked one before now, but managed to file it out completely. It left a slight flat on the jounal, but the bush was still a tight fit.