Changes to road tax

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SORN rules update

Post by bobins » 08 Dec 2013, 11:07

No doubt of mild interest to a few of you........

1. No requirement to renew a Statutory Off Road
Notification (SORN) on an annual basis
Subject to law change, from 16 December 2013 DVLA will remove
the requirement for customers to renew a SORN on an annual basis.
This means that a SORN will remain in force until a vehicle is either
taxed, sold or scrapped. Once a vehicle keeper has notified DVLA
that their vehicle is SORN’d, they will no longer have the burden of
annual SORN renewals.

Taken from the latest DVLA propaganda.... sorry, news update :-D
https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... Issue6.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: SORN rules update

Post by Xaccers » 08 Dec 2013, 11:10

That makes sense. Never understood the need to renew it every year other than to catch out the forgetful. Think how much money will be saved by not having to process SORN renewals.

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Re: SORN rules update

Post by Ben82 » 08 Dec 2013, 11:56

Makes sense with the ANPR etc in use these days. Now if only the TV Licencing folk would follow suit, rather than me having to keep telling them every 6 months that I don't have a TV in the apartment in the UK, even though I put the "date when you expect this property to have a TV" in the far future, they'll still say "We will contact you again in 6 months to see if the situation has changed". Giving up now, they can keep trying to come round and either not find me there, or come in and see that there is no TV in sight.

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Re: SORN rules update

Post by CitroJim » 08 Dec 2013, 17:35

Maybe it's connected with the phasing out of Tax (VED) discs in 2014...

They say now that all is electronic and the status can be checked in a jiffy their day is done...

Personally I still think there should be something visible in a windscreen to demonstrate the car is VED'd, MOT'd and insured.

A retrograde step perhaps..

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Re: SORN rules update

Post by Xaccers » 08 Dec 2013, 17:38

One possibility mooted was the insurance disc.

I'd also imagine that along with a website and text service to check how much MoT and tax is left on a car, there will be a DVLA phone number to call.

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Re: SORN rules update

Post by Northern_Mike » 08 Dec 2013, 17:58

CitroJim wrote: Personally I still think there should be something visible in a windscreen to demonstrate the car is VED'd, MOT'd and insured.
With the days of quality scanners and photocopiers around it's completely pointless Jim. I could scan a disc, change the details and print out a copy that would fool all but the most expert of observers.

I sold my Xsara to a chap who was using it to tow a boat to Portugal two days later. I kept the original disc and put a colour photocopy in it's place (I told him). Once he told me he was out the country, I cashed the tax in using the original disc.

I am aware of people abroad who've taken UK cars for longer than the permitted six months, declared them SORN here and just made their own discs with the aid of friends here (not me!) so to local authorities it looks legal.

Electronic is the only way I'm afraid. It's way to easy to copy documents and permits these days.



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Re: SORN rules update

Post by CitroJim » 08 Dec 2013, 18:31

Yes I know mike, all your arguments are fully valid and I agree but a car doesn't look right without a disc in the corner of the windscreen...

Maybe a nice repro disc from when the car was new will do. Several firms do those nowadays for the classic buffs...

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Re: SORN rules update

Post by Northern_Mike » 08 Dec 2013, 18:58

CitroJim wrote:Yes I know mike, all your arguments are fully valid and I agree but a car doesn't look right without a disc in the corner of the windscreen
I agree. I always thought it was an achievement to get my car into a taxable state and give the obtuse old sod in the post office no reason to refuse me a tax disc. There's something special about tearing out the new disc from it's square.

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Changes to road tax

Post by electronmirror » 03 Mar 2014, 00:54

Changes coming into effect in October 2014 mean that:

"When selling a vehicle to a new vehicle keeper, the vehicle tax will no longer be transferable. Vehicle tax will end when a vehicle is sold and the new keeper will need to get the vehicle taxed immediately before the vehicle can be used."

See DVLA news https://www.gov.uk/government/news/vehicle-tax-changes

The abolition of the paper tax disc has been widely publicised but I'd not heard of this change :o

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Re: Changes to road tax

Post by Northern_Mike » 03 Mar 2014, 01:16

Sod that! That's going to cause untold law-breaking. I won't buy a car with no tax. Wonderful idea. Ffs.

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Re: Changes to road tax

Post by Hell Razor5543 » 03 Mar 2014, 08:36

That article didn't say what happens to any remaining tax from when the vehicle is sold.

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Re: Changes to road tax

Post by daviemck2006 » 03 Mar 2014, 15:18

And if you borrow someone else's car and it's not taxed how do you know? Who gets the fine and points? I am insured to drive other cars, a valid tax disc and I know it's taxed and a good chance it has a mot