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New MOT's from the dreaded europhobes

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I was reading about what extra items the un elected geezers in Brussells have forced on us again;


New checks
The new rules, which come into force today, include a range of new tests, including a check that the airbag is present and working, and that the speedometer is correct and can be illuminated.

The seats will have to be adjustable, and the rear doors will have to open properly from the outside. The towbar shouldn't be modified - neither should the catalytic convertor if it came with the car.

Mechanics will also check that all the warning lights are working properly, the steering lock works and that power steering fluid is topped up. Headlamps will be checked to ensure bulbs are fitted correctly, and that the headlight adjustment works.

The battery and electrical wiring will have to be property fitted and secure, the fuel pipes should be undamaged, and any 13 pin sockets will be checked.

There are a number of newer technologies that come under the test if you have them on your car. These include the electronic parking brake, electronic stability control, and tyre pressure monitoring systems.

One point that worried me a bit-in RED- was about a cat.
I removed mine nearly 5 years ago, when front pipe dropped off from rear silencer. I hope these nerds are not after wanting it back in system- cos if so, I will weigh it in

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Maybe we could just buy one between us and swap it when MOT's are due????? :-D :-D :-D :-D :-D

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Good idea---pity it would cost more to post between Cwmbran and Aberdeen, than probably one each, lol

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Gregg1100 wrote:I was reading about what extra items the un elected geezers in Brussells have forced on us again;


New checks
The new rules, which come into force today, include a range of new tests, including a check that the airbag is present and working, and that the speedometer is correct and can be illuminated.

The seats will have to be adjustable, and the rear doors will have to open properly from the outside. The towbar shouldn't be modified - neither should the catalytic convertor if it came with the car.

Mechanics will also check that all the warning lights are working properly, the steering lock works and that power steering fluid is topped up. Headlamps will be checked to ensure bulbs are fitted correctly, and that the headlight adjustment works.

The battery and electrical wiring will have to be property fitted and secure, the fuel pipes should be undamaged, and any 13 pin sockets will be checked.

There are a number of newer technologies that come under the test if you have them on your car. These include the electronic parking brake, electronic stability control, and tyre pressure monitoring systems.

One point that worried me a bit-in RED- was about a cat.
I removed mine nearly 5 years ago, when front pipe dropped off from rear silencer. I hope these nerds are not after wanting it back in system- cos if so, I will weigh it in
Yep, it'll fail if it should have had one and now does not.

I can't see what's wrong with any of these new regulations to be frank.

I do know of a Subaru garage that keeps a stock of catalytic converters... an MOT there costs £90 if you have a decat pipe fitted. They take your pipe off, fit a cat, take it to the MOT station, and presuming it passes, take it back to the workshop, and put your decat pipe back on for you..

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Gregg1100 wrote:include a range of new tests, including a check that the airbag is present and working
That should be interesting.... I wonder how they're going to test that an airbag works :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's OK Greg, I know what you mean...


On cats, that's not new. My old XM fell foul of that last year as previously it did not need a cat because it ran on LPG... I had to fit one.

I understand a decatted diesel is fine as there's no legal requirement to have a cat fitted to any diesel in the UK. I may be wrong but I fancy that was the conclusion drawn last time this topic had an outing :)

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Correct Jim - Cat only required where fitted and the car qualifies for a Cat emissions test - which is petrols only, so no worries on the diesel / cat thing.

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I too was concerned about cats on diesels, as I read it as "it was fitted at the factory so you *must* have it" even though it would pass without.

Although the alternative way around that is to obtain one and empty it out and then refit it (it can be done on most without cutting them open and you can get all the insides out with a bit of time and care too, a long steel bar helps) hopefully that will not be required.

I'd imagine regarding testing SRS items, well they cannot properly test them and I doubt there would be any diagnostic done, I would guess its going to be check the warning light works as it should and where visually possible (ie look under seats if pretension fitted there not to seatbelt in side trim) to check they are connected. There's no way of knowing if they will work really apart from the obvious, even genuinely. They don't always work.

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Nothing on that list concerns me to be honest, most appears to be common sense or at least sensible checks over and above existing MOT?

regards checking Airbags etc, can this be done via the Diagnostic ports?
Pretty sure B-in-L said in France when he takes car for CT they plug into Diag ports as part of test which checks that everything is as should be referenced against OEM spec?

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Maybe although a 'general purpose' OBD type tester will not do SRS systems as far as I'm aware only basic engine codes...

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i think they will hit a brick wall ](*,) when it comes to testing the air bag

besides all what everyone is saying, i think most of the new rules will only be in force on cars after a certain year

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12v to the orange wires

*bang*

Oh yes they work fine :oops:

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The air abg check is limited to the light doing what it is supposed to - same as the ABS light - and airbgs not obviously missing or inoperative - so taking a car with the airbag having gone off and missing out of the wheel would result in a fail :lol:

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RichardW wrote:The air abg check is limited to the light doing what it is supposed to - same as the ABS light - and airbgs not obviously missing or inoperative - so taking a car with the airbag having gone off and missing out of the wheel would result in a fail :lol:
if it aint there they cant test it :shock: :-D :wink:

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citronut wrote:if it aint there they cant test it :shock: :-D :wink:
I thought about things like that too, but they would probably be able to tell if it was fitted originally and then fail.

I suppose one way of cheating ABS is to remove the modulator and join the pipes then you may pass as its not there at all rather than 'hidden' not sure though.

You could think of "if its not there" like rear seat belts, ie needed after 1986 (I think, or thereabouts) taking them out because one was faulty would result in a fail as they are awol.

The delay wiring would get around the warning lights although not really advisable other than a quick emergency, and only works on non plexed too.

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Called in to local MOT place today and the usual tester said that the no cat pipe is ok- so a happy bunny here, lol.