identify fuel filter
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identify fuel filter
trying to identify if i have bosch or siemens fuel filter , as no markings on housing .......
has 3 fuel pipes , and an electrical connection , can anyone help?
has 3 fuel pipes , and an electrical connection , can anyone help?
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Re: identify fuel filter
May help if you could post a photo Duncan.
You will find it helps if you put the details of your car in your signature, saves people having to ask and you repeatedly having to supply the same information.
You will find it helps if you put the details of your car in your signature, saves people having to ask and you repeatedly having to supply the same information.
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Re: identify fuel filter
Ignore the filter to ID it - Bosch has an in-tank electric pump, Siemens doesn't. So if there is a hand primer under the bonnet it's Siemens(*), if not, and you can hear the pump whirring for a few seconds at swtich on, it's Bosch.
* unless it's a 1.6HDi in which case they all have a hand primer, not sure of the maker of the injection system.
* unless it's a 1.6HDi in which case they all have a hand primer, not sure of the maker of the injection system.
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Re: identify fuel filter
The filter type is also irrelevent! Because the Bosch fuel system has had two types depending on year used!
I know the type of filter you have - its round at both ends, however, this filter was fitted to Bosch Fuel systems from 2001 onwards...406, C5 etc
Earlyer Bosch systems had a different filter and the housing had NO electrical sensor, to look at it fits in the house one way as the bottom has a funny shape to it, so it only goes in one way. This filter house has two pipes on the "Lid" or top, and a 22mm type hex head to use a socket to undo it. Fitted to Earlyer 406's (I think) and Xantias (Defenatly)
Your type of filter is bolted to a bracket by two 10mm nuts, and has a screw type lid??
Im dooing this by recall from your housing description... Am I right?
If im correct, dealer pt. no.. VFF422
Ive got the page up, but Ive no idea how to get it on here....
I know the type of filter you have - its round at both ends, however, this filter was fitted to Bosch Fuel systems from 2001 onwards...406, C5 etc
Earlyer Bosch systems had a different filter and the housing had NO electrical sensor, to look at it fits in the house one way as the bottom has a funny shape to it, so it only goes in one way. This filter house has two pipes on the "Lid" or top, and a 22mm type hex head to use a socket to undo it. Fitted to Earlyer 406's (I think) and Xantias (Defenatly)
Your type of filter is bolted to a bracket by two 10mm nuts, and has a screw type lid??
Im dooing this by recall from your housing description... Am I right?
If im correct, dealer pt. no.. VFF422
Ive got the page up, but Ive no idea how to get it on here....
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
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L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
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M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
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Re: identify fuel filter
will try and get a pic , and have a look in daylight , not when almost dark , ta very much
1st french car : pug 306 1996 1.9 xld
2nd french car ; ren megane 2001 1400 16v classic
3rd french car : cit xsara ph1 hdi 5dr 2000
current car : cit xsara picasso hdi 2003
2nd french car ; ren megane 2001 1400 16v classic
3rd french car : cit xsara ph1 hdi 5dr 2000
current car : cit xsara picasso hdi 2003
Re: identify fuel filter
Does it look like this one?duncan bladen wrote:will try and get a pic , and have a look in daylight , not when almost dark , ta very much
That's the Siemens one in my Berlingo HDI
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Re: identify fuel filter
They are ALSO fitted on the 406 and C5's with Bosch Mike!
So its a mix n match ... But thats the one he means..
So its a mix n match ... But thats the one he means..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
Re: identify fuel filter
That's definitely a Siemens as the Bosch filter wouldn't physically fit.
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2008 Peugeot 207 Sw 1.6 16v hdi. 217k and rising
2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Re: identify fuel filter
Yes Mike, what Im saying is that Sieamans fuel filter house is ALSO fitted to 406 and C5s after 2001 with Bosch fuel system..
So that fuel Filter house is NOT a dedicated Siemans filter house...
So that fuel Filter house is NOT a dedicated Siemans filter house...
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
Re: identify fuel filter
Yes, but only the Siemens filter will fit in it, so even though it's fitted to Bosch systems, only a Siemens filter will fit, so it is a Siemens housing..citroenxm wrote:Yes Mike, what Im saying is that Sieamans fuel filter house is ALSO fitted to 406 and C5s after 2001 with Bosch fuel system..
So that fuel Filter house is NOT a dedicated Siemans filter house...
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2008 Peugeot 207 Sw 1.6 16v hdi. 217k and rising
2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Re: identify fuel filter
Ahh I SEE... Im with you now... So that sort is the Siemans filter, the other the Bosch filter...
Right.. I didnt realise that sort was known as the Siemans filter...
Right.. I didnt realise that sort was known as the Siemans filter...
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
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Re: identify fuel filter
look exactly right, so its a siemans filter i need
1st french car : pug 306 1996 1.9 xld
2nd french car ; ren megane 2001 1400 16v classic
3rd french car : cit xsara ph1 hdi 5dr 2000
current car : cit xsara picasso hdi 2003
2nd french car ; ren megane 2001 1400 16v classic
3rd french car : cit xsara ph1 hdi 5dr 2000
current car : cit xsara picasso hdi 2003
Re: identify fuel filter
duncan bladen wrote:look exactly right, so its a siemans filter i need
I think it's described at places like Eurocarparts as a "Siemens element type". The one I used was a Guttman brand like this...
http://www.eurocarparts.com/ecp/c/Citro ... 8a8&000140" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But the one I used on the C5 just came in a Bosch box and said Bosch on it.
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Re: identify fuel filter
That's the same as my C5. I have a Mann W712/47 filter in it, sourced at Cocker's car spares, Columbia.
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Re: identify fuel filter
THANKS ALL
1st french car : pug 306 1996 1.9 xld
2nd french car ; ren megane 2001 1400 16v classic
3rd french car : cit xsara ph1 hdi 5dr 2000
current car : cit xsara picasso hdi 2003
2nd french car ; ren megane 2001 1400 16v classic
3rd french car : cit xsara ph1 hdi 5dr 2000
current car : cit xsara picasso hdi 2003