Can anyone help? I have had an intermittent rear tailgate lock working and not working - ususally sorted by repeated locking and unlocking. Today it stuck in the locked position and I managed to unlock after crawling in the back and prising off the plastic bit (advice elsewhere on the forum).
OK - so I pressed on, removed the trim and membrane to reveal the motor and mechanism. The motor seems to be working fine - moving in and out but the actual mechanism - bit of a complicated looking system of rods doesn't seem to be working .
I have applied plenty of WD40 and will recommence activities in the morning.
Has anyone had similar - is there something I need to do or are we looking at a new lock/rod part?
Any help and comments greatly appreciated.
Nigel
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Not solved the problem, but found it a VERY common problem!
I did free a customers off with WD 40, but the solinoids are a weakness, and use the old style solinoid from the 309 / BX days..
The same problem happens with XM's tailgate locks, in the same way!
Other then WD40, cannot sugest anything else, but just share the same experiance.
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I did free a customers off with WD 40, but the solinoids are a weakness, and use the old style solinoid from the 309 / BX days..
The same problem happens with XM's tailgate locks, in the same way!
Other then WD40, cannot sugest anything else, but just share the same experiance.
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I had recently same problem which was solved with a "new" lock motor from a scrap car
Here's link to my --> Tailgate lock problem.
It's good that you found out how to open it from inside the car.
Read CitroJim's reply in above thread which explains the mechanism function in detail .
When I got the replacement lock working I have opened the old lock to see how it works. It's heat welded (ultrasonic welding I guess) and it's not meant to be opened.
PS: Make sure that the plastic membrane is sealed well, especially from lower part, near rods.
Here's link to my --> Tailgate lock problem.
It's good that you found out how to open it from inside the car.
Read CitroJim's reply in above thread which explains the mechanism function in detail .
When I got the replacement lock working I have opened the old lock to see how it works. It's heat welded (ultrasonic welding I guess) and it's not meant to be opened.
PS: Make sure that the plastic membrane is sealed well, especially from lower part, near rods.
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Thanks for the replies and gudiance. I will have a fresh look at the mechanism tomorrow and see if I can get things working again.
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Next moring and two and a half hours later - the car has nice aroma of WD40 and after much looking, checking, moving stike plate and generally messing about...............it WORKS!
The bit that really needed checking and adjusting was a really small part near to the bit that grabs to the bar and locks the tailgate. The part is a screw adjusted plastic "clip" which allows a metal rod to meet with the lock. When you get to grips with the mechanism it really is a bit of a dogs breakfast - I never cease to be amazed at how things are designed.
It is a bit tricky to explain but my advice is to get to grips with how the lock works - use plenty of WD40 and keep messing about!
Now for some breakfast!
The bit that really needed checking and adjusting was a really small part near to the bit that grabs to the bar and locks the tailgate. The part is a screw adjusted plastic "clip" which allows a metal rod to meet with the lock. When you get to grips with the mechanism it really is a bit of a dogs breakfast - I never cease to be amazed at how things are designed.
It is a bit tricky to explain but my advice is to get to grips with how the lock works - use plenty of WD40 and keep messing about!
Now for some breakfast!
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Is this http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?Tab ... &U=Strat15 the motor from Maplin that fits? If so would I need the 2 wire or 5 wire for my Mk1 Estate?
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The Two Wire ones Richard. The wiring is very simple, straught to the motor in the lock. The ECU reverses the polarity to effect the lock/unlock action.RichG wrote:would I need the 2 wire or 5 wire for my Mk1 Estate?
These motors look just the job and are excellent value...
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As Jim says, the two wire type. Again, as far as I remember, the 5 wire type is a two wire motor with an internal changeover switch so that front doors can operate the central locking. You could leave this unconnected if replacing a two wire.
Note that cars after about 2000 may use totally different door locking systems.
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Note that cars after about 2000 may use totally different door locking systems.
Fred