C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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He has the Double Air Doser Mike - this is the DW10CTED4 engine with Delphi Injection:

So here are the Air Supply Components:
X7 CTED Air A.PNG
(1) Air flow meter (Air flow by mass).
(2) The air inlet housing.
(3) Turbocharger air cooler.
X7 CTED Air B.PNG
(4) Proportional electrovalve controlling the variable resistance turbocharger.
(5) Cold air circuit electrovalve.
(6) Hot air circuit electrovalve.
(7) Variable geometry turbocharger
X7 CTED Air C.PNG
(8) Double inlet air doser unit .
(9) Inlet air pressure and temperature sensor.
X7 CTED Air D.PNG
ReferenceDesignation
"a"Turbocharger blades control diaphragm (With position copy sensor)
(1)Engine ECU
(2)Variable geometry turbocharger
(3)Proportional electrovalve controlling the variable resistance turbocharger
(4)Air flowmeter by mass
(5)Air filter unit
(6)Turbocharger air cooler
(7)Double air mixer with position repeat sensors
(8)Inlet air pressure and temperature sensor
(9)Turbo air cooler by-pass control electrovalve
(10)Air metering unit control electrovalve
Key
  • "A" Fresh air
  • "B" Cooled compressed air
  • "C" Hot compressed air
  • "D" Air inlet
  • "E" Exhaust gas
  • "F" Control vacuum
  • "G" Electrical links
EGR Components:
X7 CTED EGR A.PNG
(1) Exhaust gas recycling module :
Electrically-controlled exhaust gas recycling valve
Exhaust gas recirculation heat exchanger
Pneumatic exhaust gas recycling heat exchanger bypass flap
X7 CTED EGR B.PNG
(2) Control electrovalve for the EGR heat exchanger by-pass.
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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I appreciate you for your interest.
especially givemeabreak and miket your interest makes me happy.
I don't want to bother you so much.I took the pictures you sent out of the printer.my mechanic will go to my friend tomorrow.you know these two p codes

tomorrow I'll spend all day in my car.where should I look at respectively



where do you think to start repairing


I can understand if it has been canceled(partikül filtresi) ?
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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Not sure I understand what you are saying about the Particle Filter being canceled?
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 07 Apr 2019, 19:49 Not sure I understand what you are saying about the Particle Filter being canceled?

What should you recommend in a repair shop tomorrow.I just asked the question. Is it understood that the particle filter is canceled.egr valve can be clogged or a sensor malfunction.p I received p error codes related to air agitator.what the experiences show in the engine
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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No, leave the particle filter alone - that is not indicated as being at fault.

Get your mechanic to check the vacuum circuit as described on the previous page where I listed the fault codes. It has the suspect areas listed.
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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Item 8 (air doser) and item 6 (electrovalve) are main suspects as they are prone to contamination (sticking).
I would test these first (further tests may be necessary).

Item 8 houses two butterfly valves. Clean and check they both open and close smoothly.
If not, replace air doser.
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Item 6 is has a very small internal air filter. If internal air filter can be cleaned, clean it.
If not, you may need to replace electrovalve.
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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I am a mechanic now.
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the socket I have marked is idle.could this be related to
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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can't comment.
i am very angry now.
I'm investigating it so empty.
you can not comment so give an idea
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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That's so poetic. Almost like a Haiku.
As I get older I think a lot about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.

Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened.

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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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Citroen C5 is a great tool.
repairers are very weak, this is not enough to solve the problem.
I'm researching it.everyone is helping.then I share with repairmen.
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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Please note that on the DW10C engine, the by-pass function is not active, the hot air (by-pass) flap is only activated in the event that the cold air (mixer) flap seizes.

So although you have the double air doser, the left hand plug is purposefully disconnected (the wiring plug will be hidden) and there should be no vacuum pipe attached either. So DO NOT connect this up, as it is designed to be left off!
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 08 Apr 2019, 11:57 Please note that on the DW10C engine, the by-pass function is not active, the hot air (by-pass) flap is only activated in the event that the cold air (mixer) flap seizes.

So although you have the double air doser, the left hand plug is purposefully disconnected (the wiring plug will be hidden) and there should be no vacuum pipe attached either. So DO NOT connect this up, as it is designed to be left off!


I share your information with the mechanic.
Thank you very much for your labor.would you mind if I use my car.
Is it so difficult to make a fault detection?why are they so ignorant.
I think they never research
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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elektro valfi=elektrovana ?


if the breakdown of this piece is not over 3000 cycles.
if this is the right information my tool is going smoothly
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Re: C?TROEN C5 2011 SX PK 2.0 HD? 163

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new error code...
It was a mistake to take a car in 250 thousand.and it was a mistake to get from the dealers.
now code p2562 and p1497...
I have filed a corrections, but irresponsible
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Here are the fault code descriptors for you:
Fault codeP2562
After sales description of the fault codeVariable geometry turbocharger: Position incorrect in relation to the requirement
Not enough turbocharging
Description of the diagnosticsThe position measured is greater than the reference by more than 40 % for 6 seconds
Conditions of activation of the diagnosticsengine running
Conditions of disappearance of the faultDriving with the engine hot for 5 minutes
Down-grade modes if fault presentDeactivation of the EGR function
Switching on of the warning lamp and/or warning messageWarning lamp MIL
Main customer complaints likelyNoise
Smoke from the exhaust
Lack of power
Loss of braking
Suspect areasTurbocharger: Variable geometry open
Turbocharger solenoid valve
Position indicator of the turbocharger
Electrical harness
Vacuum circuit
Fault codeP1497
After sales description of the fault codeVariable geometry turbocharger: Position incorrect in relation to the requirement - Not enough turbocharging
Description of the diagnosticsThe position measured is greater than the reference by more than 30 % for 6 seconds
Conditions of activation of the diagnosticsEngine has been running for at least 6 s
Conditions of disappearance of the faultDriving with the engine hot for 5 minutes
Down-grade modes if fault present-
Switching on of the warning lamp and/or warning message-
Main customer complaints likelyNoise
Smoke from the exhaust
Lack of power
Loss of braking
Suspect areasTurbocharger: Variable geometry open
Turbocharger solenoid valve: Failure of the solenoid valve
Electrical harness
Position indicator of the turbocharger: Electrical harness
Vacuum circuit leak
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