Changing DS3 fuel injector

This is the Forum for all your Citroen Technical Questions, Problems or Advice.
User avatar
Paul-R
Moderating Team
Posts: 8968
Joined: 07 May 2009, 16:24
x 1865

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by Paul-R »

Do the injectors need coding in? I can't see anything obvious on the top of the injector (presumably hexadecimal) that would be a code.
As I get older I think a lot about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.

Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened.

"Trying is the first step towards failure" ~ Homer J Simpson
tomjyoutwit
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 127
Joined: 17 Nov 2018, 13:11
x 5

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by tomjyoutwit »

I've seen things written about it Paul but not too sure. I can't see it being too much of a problem - especially seeing as I currently have no use of the vehicle!
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
(Donor 2016)
Posts: 41989
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 6955

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by GiveMeABreak »

Yes, they do and the code on your original picture for this specific injector is arrowed in green (B4FJKJ) in this example.
Tom Injector Code.PNG
I'll be putting something up shortly as promised, it takes me a while to do...
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.

Marc
tomjyoutwit
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 127
Joined: 17 Nov 2018, 13:11
x 5

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by tomjyoutwit »

Thank you Marc appreciate it.

Should I be in a rush to programme them?
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
(Donor 2016)
Posts: 41989
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 6955

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by GiveMeABreak »

Yes, because a unique code is generated for each injector during the stages of manufacturing that specifically relate to the exact tolerance range of the needle and assembly. This info is needed by the engine ECU to provide the correct fuelling. Considering that the fuel is injected through a nozzle that it a thirtieth of the width of a human hair, it is important to code them.

Possible issues if they are not coded / coded correctly can lead to refusal to start, poor running, smoking, increase in fuel consumption, increased emissions etc., so not a good idea to leave this.

Anyway, I have completed the illustrated guide for you and it can now be found in the Resources Section of the Member's Area:

DS3 1.6 HDi (DV6C) Siemens Injector Removal / Replacement
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.

Marc
tomjyoutwit
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 127
Joined: 17 Nov 2018, 13:11
x 5

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by tomjyoutwit »

Thanks Marc- is that only through Lexia? Is this what every marque does?
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
(Donor 2016)
Posts: 41989
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 6955

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by GiveMeABreak »

If you are referring to injector coding, this will be required for every modern car that uses a common rail high pressure direct injection and later petrol models too.

The Diagnostic tool used by PSA for their vehicles is a hardware Vehicle Communications Interface (VCI - the hardware) and the software - Lexia for older cars and Diagbox for later models circa 2007 /8 on.

The coding operation is handled by the diagnostic equipment and is a guided procedure. Other Marques will have their own diagnostic kits to do a similar operation.
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.

Marc
User avatar
Paul-R
Moderating Team
Posts: 8968
Joined: 07 May 2009, 16:24
x 1865

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by Paul-R »

Interesting that the code is not hexadecimal and is only 6 characters long.
As I get older I think a lot about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.

Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened.

"Trying is the first step towards failure" ~ Homer J Simpson
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
(Donor 2016)
Posts: 41989
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 6955

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by GiveMeABreak »

Just a Hex code on this one.
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.

Marc
Hell Razor5543
(Donor 2023)
Posts: 14262
Joined: 01 Apr 2012, 09:47
x 3275

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by Hell Razor5543 »

GiveMeABreak wrote: 30 Jun 2020, 20:32 Just a Hex code on this one.
So long as it works properly, and has not been 'hexed'! :D
James
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
ex C5 2.2HDi VTX+

Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
User avatar
Paul-R
Moderating Team
Posts: 8968
Joined: 07 May 2009, 16:24
x 1865

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by Paul-R »

It can't be hex if it has 'J' or 'K' in it. It must be some other system.
As I get older I think a lot about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.

Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened.

"Trying is the first step towards failure" ~ Homer J Simpson
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
(Donor 2016)
Posts: 41989
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 6955

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by GiveMeABreak »

I meant as of 6, not the abbreviated Hex. from Hexadecimal.
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.

Marc
tomjyoutwit
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 127
Joined: 17 Nov 2018, 13:11
x 5

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by tomjyoutwit »

Ta dah!

Waiting for the replacement to arrive. Can anyone provide the size I need for a replacement copper washer for the bottom?
DA7E0101-92CE-47AC-8485-0721147094CE.jpeg
User avatar
GiveMeABreak
(Donor 2016)
Posts: 41989
Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
x 6955

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by GiveMeABreak »

Tom Injector Washer.PNG
Item (8) is Part: 1982G6 (Engine Injector Protection)
Item (9) is Part: 198194 (Injector Seal) 7.07/14.9 EP2.1-CN

If that helps
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.

Marc
tomjyoutwit
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 127
Joined: 17 Nov 2018, 13:11
x 5

Re: Changing DS3 fuel injector

Unread post by tomjyoutwit »

Thanks Marc, not sure if possible but can I find a list of cars and years that use the same injector?