ozfrog wrote: Today, 06:16
MattBLancs wrote: 09 Aug 2026, 20:17
Yes, a clutch change should be doable for me. Just pricing them up.
I don’t want to derail your thread, but …
Too late to worry about that!
washing machines, gardening and all sorts of non-car related stuff slips in - all good!
Does this car have a dual mass clutch?
And if so, will you replace it with the same? Or will you replace it with a standard clutch? In Australia, the clutch conversion kit is quite expensive, but it means that future clutch replacements will be a lot cheaper.
In both my early 406 and my 307, I opted for a single clutch. But I’m not convinced that I’m capable of doing the job, so I had mechanics do both cars. They were expensive jobs! But they were done by different mechanics.
The 406 was done by a person who knew Peugeots. The clutch was replaced in 2013 or 2014 and it is still perfect in operation.
The 307 was done by someone who is a good mechanic, but isn’t a Peugeot person. He said he was willing to learn about Peugeots, but the clutch on the 307 is really rough to use. It’s hard to take off from a standing start without the car shuddering.
I feel like a novice driver who has no idea how to drive a manual car! It’s the complete opposite to the 406. My hope is that the clutch will die quickly and that I’ll be able to get it replaced by someone who can get it working without shuddering. I don’t know if this shuddering is built into the replacement clutch or if it’s just a bad job of installing the clutch. Hopefully it isn’t built into the car having been changed from a dual mass clutch to a single mass clutch. I suppose only time will determine that. Or maybe I don’t know enough about the clutch to answer the question.
308 : Yes it's a dual mass flywheel - most of the HDi engines are to my knowledge, as I understand it only the original 90 bhp 2.0 8 valve HDi being conventional solid flywheel. It's bigger brother the 110 bhp 8 valve and most other HDi = all DMF equipped.
I've kept it with DMF. Conversion kits not a lot cheaper than keeping it as Peugeot intended and to be honest I'd say most UK cars are unlikely to see their third clutch (as something else will kill them off, e.g. rust!)
Diesels make quite severe torsional vibrations between power strokes and my understanding is that at idle speed in particular these are pretty harsh for the gearbox to deal with.
I've done clutch changes in the past (including the 306: pull type that is a bit of a faff!) but the 308 is probably going to be the biggest job just given the amount of "stuff" in the way before I am pulling the gearbox off. Not sure if the subframe has to come off (it did on the C5 - ah, looking at the pictures, no it was just the crash bar frame thing I got away with, looking back:
Thinking outside of the box is better than sitting in a dark one.