XANTIA HDi RUNNING ROUGH
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MattBLancs
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Re: XANTIA HDi RUNNING ROUGH
The thing in question gets a picture in 4B "Fuel and Exhaust systems - diesel models" but wasn't logical to put the associated torque setting in the same chapter!?!

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Skull
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Re: XANTIA HDi RUNNING ROUGH
Thanks very much Matt, that's the only end I undone as the upper one stayed in place. I've ordered the 2 copper sealing washers ....
If I'm that unlucky with the missing nut, I will get the petrol can out
Just a thought that popped in my head due to the fact it hasn't turned up yet ....
In my search I've found a tiny nut that could have been an old glow plug top nut, a plastic engine cover cap and also I believe an additional Fuel Injector copper sealing washer in situ
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Happy to help!Skull wrote: 26 Feb 2026, 18:37 Thanks very much Matt, that's the only end I undone as the upper one stayed in place. I've ordered the 2 copper sealing washers ....
Yes, exactly - just with me the very seed of that idea would flipping niggle at me until I'd disproven it!If I'm that unlucky with the missing nut, I will get the petrol can out![]()
Just a thought that popped in my head due to the fact it hasn't turned up yet ....
Bit like the "did I lock the car?" Niggle, I've just got to the stage where I go and check the door again (and yes almost invariably it was locked, just as I thought it was...)
Oh, freebies!! Call that a winIn my search I've found a tiny nut that could have been an old glow plug top nut, a plastic engine cover cap and also I believe an additional Fuel Injector copper sealing washer in situ![]()
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Re: XANTIA HDi RUNNING ROUGH
Good to see further progress Gary and fingers crossed that naughty nut won't cause any mischief 
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Skull
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NOT the update you're all waiting for but anyway ....
Delays due to loss of enthusiasm, British weather and medical problems (minor and temporary) but if you're having tea don't click on the spoiler
Some of the other problems have been bodged today:
I'm missing a rubber pipe that joins between Camshaft Cover and Air Intake Ducting
Not a clue where it's gone and I can't find the part I'm missing - never mind the relevant part number on these images......
So I made this which hopefully will suffice for now, there were no clips on either end of the original pipe, but as I didn't want the inner tube injested into either orifice I reinforced it with a plastic pipe that's too big to insert fully..... Parts used to replace
The resultant bodge until I find or replace the missing part
Also whilst tidying some pipework and numerous clips there was one clip spare
I found out where it goes and have got it into situ but I can't get the clip pliers into position as the coolant outlet is now in the way - it's on the bottom of the large and long engine breather pipe that goes from the lower engine block to the camshaft cover - it was impossible to remove despite heating up with the hot air gun so I'm hoping it's tight enough not to leak or I will probably have to resort to a replacement jubilee type clip - an embarrasing oversight on my part probably because I've done this job over a prolonged period
As soon as my wound has healed I shall be getting the driveshaft and support bearing mounts back in and then I'm almost back to where I was months ago
It's warming up a bit ....
Delays due to loss of enthusiasm, British weather and medical problems (minor and temporary) but if you're having tea don't click on the spoiler
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Some of the other problems have been bodged today:
I'm missing a rubber pipe that joins between Camshaft Cover and Air Intake Ducting
Not a clue where it's gone and I can't find the part I'm missing - never mind the relevant part number on these images......
So I made this which hopefully will suffice for now, there were no clips on either end of the original pipe, but as I didn't want the inner tube injested into either orifice I reinforced it with a plastic pipe that's too big to insert fully..... Parts used to replace
The resultant bodge until I find or replace the missing part
Also whilst tidying some pipework and numerous clips there was one clip spare
As soon as my wound has healed I shall be getting the driveshaft and support bearing mounts back in and then I'm almost back to where I was months ago
It's warming up a bit ....
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More car prawn.Skull wrote: 19 Mar 2026, 16:08 but as I didn't want the inner tube injested into either orifice I reinforced it with a plastic pipe that's too big to insert fully.....
It'll on the road in no time
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Notice the BX is still top the list but sadly gone
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Skull
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Re: XANTIA HDi RUNNING ROUGH
It was either that or sucked off/in
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Ooooo lovely!
What I would give to squeeze that?
I love watching Dr. Pimple Popper. My missus absolutely hates it.
Not sure why I find spots so fascinating.
I had a 'good' blackhead or some kind of cyst on my back once that I couldn't get to. Bloody irritating.
In fact, it was 10 years in December because I walked into Peterborough NHS Walk-In Centre whilst my one day passport application was being dealt with. A lovely nurse there got it for me. I think I had to go to the Nottingham Walk-In Centre too for it. Cannot recall if that was after or before and an ex-Army field medic sorted it for me. He got quite a bit out.
Then it built up one final time and was really tender and I just about managed to get free enough to get my arm up my back to squeeze it. It wouldn't go so I leant against the external metal corner of the shower and pushed all my weight against the corner and slowly moved sideways to build the pressure up and it went. WHAT A GREAT FEELING! Absolutely exploded cottage cheese (apparently it's the in-thing to eat at the moment) and blood onto the extrusion and hit the wall 3 feet away too.
It's never come back. What a shame!
Not sure I could actually do someone else's. Well not one as nice as that BEAUTY you've got Gary!
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Skull
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Rhothgar wrote: 19 Mar 2026, 21:52
What I would give to squeeze that?
I love watching Dr. Pimple Popper.
I'm open to offers
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CitroJim
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I was only thinking I'd not seen an update for a while Gary
Pleased to see more good progress...
That was quite some pimple! I have no problem with things like that - being a dad (and grandad) of two and after seeing what they did to my leg last year nothing now shocks me! And may your recovery continue unhindered
Looking forward to hearing the HDi running like a clock - I know it will and it's not far off now...
That was quite some pimple! I have no problem with things like that - being a dad (and grandad) of two and after seeing what they did to my leg last year nothing now shocks me! And may your recovery continue unhindered
Looking forward to hearing the HDi running like a clock - I know it will and it's not far off now...
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Re: XANTIA HDi RUNNING ROUGH
Cheers Jim it's more of a jigsaw than I remember, I've braved going back under the car today with a sheet down to help keep my wound clean which is still weeping (waste of effort) and managed to get the Turbo Support Brackets 2x 5mm Allen Bolt 1x6mm Allen Bolt (15 Ibf/ft) and Rear Engine Mount (3x 16mm Hex - 37 Ibf/ft and 2 dowel pins) and Bearing Carrier mounted and torqued up ready for the Driveshaft to be installed ...
I was preparing to fit the driveshaft but I thought I would clean it up a bit first ...... for several years I have had an intermittent ABS issue at slow speed, pulsating brake pedal but never had a ABS fault logged or dashboard warning light, I inspected all the ABS rings and sensors but wasn't able to determine where the faulty component was ....However after a clean up of the ABS ring it's very crumbly and probably needs replacing....
I think I might as well replace the ring prior to the driveshaft going back in and in the meantime I can get the engine timed up and tested ...
just as well I'm (I feel like it's a we're
) not in a rush
Question for Matt and his 406 BoL's:
I've torqued the Turbo Support Bracket bolts to 15 Ibf/ft so far - can you confirm please
Can you also see if the Turbo drain-off fitting has a torque setting (5mm Allen bolt)(I couldn't see it on your Haynes picture)
just as well I'm (I feel like it's a we're
Question for Matt and his 406 BoL's:
I've torqued the Turbo Support Bracket bolts to 15 Ibf/ft so far - can you confirm please
Can you also see if the Turbo drain-off fitting has a torque setting (5mm Allen bolt)(I couldn't see it on your Haynes picture)
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Sheesh! That reluctor ring is in a right state. Hard to believe no fault was thrown. Was this not picked up on Jim's Lexia session?
You're doing a sterling job, Gary. Good to see.
I treated myself yesterday. Got one of those 12V cordless ratchets from Lidl for £39.99. Great for quickly off nuts in remote places. Just got to be careful to dip your toe if nut is seized and go "off/on, off/on, off/on" to clean up any rusty threads and prevent shearing.
I'd bet there is an online grade somewhere for general torque settings based on material the bolt is going into, grade of said bolt and shank diameter. 15lb/ft is not particularly a low amount of torque. I once had a hub nut on a Saab 9000 to undo and it took all my weight on a breaker bar to shift it. That was 'only' 100lb/ft (or was it 200lb/ft?). Old age!
You're doing a sterling job, Gary. Good to see.
I treated myself yesterday. Got one of those 12V cordless ratchets from Lidl for £39.99. Great for quickly off nuts in remote places. Just got to be careful to dip your toe if nut is seized and go "off/on, off/on, off/on" to clean up any rusty threads and prevent shearing.
I'd bet there is an online grade somewhere for general torque settings based on material the bolt is going into, grade of said bolt and shank diameter. 15lb/ft is not particularly a low amount of torque. I once had a hub nut on a Saab 9000 to undo and it took all my weight on a breaker bar to shift it. That was 'only' 100lb/ft (or was it 200lb/ft?). Old age!
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Skull
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Re: XANTIA HDi RUNNING ROUGH
Rothgar Yeah it's rough alright, it's probably 4 years since I last inspected them so it looks like it's time to change that one at least.Rhothgar wrote: 23 Mar 2026, 15:28 Sheesh! That reluctor ring is in a right state. Hard to believe no fault was thrown. Was this not picked up on Jim's Lexia session?
I don't think Jim specifically looked for other faults - we were just focused on engine faults logged.
Online guides I keep getting AI bot giving me a rough guideline - a little too vauge for me!
I'm trying to avoid buying anymore tools
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An absolute true fighter well done on everything you have done this far , i take my hat off to you .
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MattBLancs
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Re: XANTIA HDi RUNNING ROUGH
With you in a mo!Skull wrote: 23 Mar 2026, 15:16 Question for Matt and his 406 BoL's:
I've torqued the Turbo Support Bracket bolts to 15 Ibf/ft so far - can you confirm please![]()
Can you also see if the Turbo drain-off fitting has a torque setting (5mm Allen bolt)(I couldn't see it on your Haynes picture)![]()