As I remember the Mk1 Mini Cooper was launched with the 997cc engine, ugraded to 998 when the S was introduced with the 1071. Later the S was upgraded to 1275 when the Cooper moved up to the 1071. At the beginning the standard minis were fitted with the 848cc engine, I had a 1959 Austin Seven version in 1968, thus making the 997 Cooper a significant power upgrade. The one on Page 2, Jim's pick, is the standard Cooper not the S but it is of course a Mk1 Cooper which is why, I believe, Jim picked it!!Paul-R wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 20:04 I thought that the Cooper S came with either 970cc, 1071cc or (later) 1275cc engines. The 997 engine was fitted to the early Coopers and quickly replaced by the ubiquitous 998 engine.
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Yes, we're saying the same thing. The Cooper S started with the 1071 which was later upgraded to 1275. The 970cc engine was a homologation special option for sub 1 litre racing. The "standard" Cooper started with the 997 engine which was basically a long stroke version of the 848 engine. It was ridiculously undersquare and no use for high revs so was quickly superseded with 998 engine.
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Indeed Paul, yes. That as always my understanding. The 997 was a bit of a short-lived compromise for the original Cooper to fit in with production line constraints, allegedly around the Churchill boring machines in use at that time. It was a bit of a long-stroke engine with small bores and concomitant small valves. Not really a performance engine at all.Paul-R wrote: 03 Aug 2025, 20:04 I thought that the Cooper S came with either 970cc, 1071cc or (later) 1275cc engines. The 997 engine was fitted to the early Coopers and quickly replaced by the ubiquitous 998 engine.
The 1071 - which ultimately led to the 1275 - was much more of a performance engine with a big bore (relatively), short'ish stroke, bigger valves and much more open combustion chambers.
The 970 was an oversquare revver and only produced in small number for homologation purposes - the most desirable S to for me...
That an S should have a 997 seems a bit odd but then again a lot can happen to a car like that over the course of 60 years. Not that I'd pass it by - especially in white. My very first Mini was white. Just an ordinary 850 although it was a deluxe model
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It's not an S Jim, but an original Austin CooperCitroJim wrote: 04 Aug 2025, 04:56
That an S should have a 997 seems a bit odd but then again a lot can happen to a car like that over the course of 60 years. Not that I'd pass it by - especially in white. My very first Mini was white. Just an ordinary 850 although it was a deluxe model![]()
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That resolves that then
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Head scratching time again!!
https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/auction ... 0-Aug-2025
After much deliberation, and not wanting to keep picking the same car I have gone for this:
https://angliacarauctions.co.uk/auction ... 0-Aug-2025
After much deliberation, and not wanting to keep picking the same car I have gone for this:
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Gosh, that was a difficult one and like you Mick, I've gone for something a bit different this time and not my usual predictable go-to 
The yellow Mini was so tempting but this other yellow machine stole my heart:
This one brings back some very special lusty teenage memories
Speaking of teenage lust, that Honda CB400-4 was a big two-wheeled temptation too
I saw one, with a bright red tank, on Monday at our local Waitrose...
The yellow Mini was so tempting but this other yellow machine stole my heart:
This one brings back some very special lusty teenage memories
Speaking of teenage lust, that Honda CB400-4 was a big two-wheeled temptation too
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Re: If you could have any one , which would you pick?
I think I would have the DBS 6.
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I see there's a 1937 Austin 10 like the one I mentioned in the 'what was your first car' thread. Same as mine except the colour, mine was all black.
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When I was a boy we had one mouldering away in the back garden. It was my plaything and a home for the chickens...Gibbo2286 wrote: 15 Aug 2025, 10:24 I see there's a 1937 Austin 10 like the one I mentioned in the 'what was your first car' thread. Same as mine except the colour, mine was all black.
Although it was 60 years ago now I recall it was still fully functional and like the Austin Ruby that also lived in the garden, it would on occasion be taken for a little drive around the orchard...
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Time for another brain scratching exercise, scroll past the memorabilia and start browsing from the orange MGB:
https://www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auction- ... ore-a10105
https://www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auction- ... ore-a10105
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If I could fit into it, 229 (and a professional driving course, because I KNOW that is a car that needs proper knowledge to safely drive it the way it is meant to be driven).
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I forgot to say this is my choice, possibly one of the best ways to dress a V8 and who doesn't love a V8?
https://www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auction- ... 4f00c8d21e
https://www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auction- ... 4f00c8d21e
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Good choice Mick, I've picked another "red + V8" option, very TVR Griffith - like but a rare "never heard of it" https://www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auction- ... 4f00c8d21dmickthemaverick wrote: 11 Sep 2025, 16:48 I forgot to say this is my choice, possibly one of the best ways to dress a V8 and who doesn't love a V8?
https://www.i-bidder.com/en-gb/auction- ... 4f00c8d21e
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Wow
It's an absolute no-brainer for me..
No prizes for second-guessing my choice: the 1071 Cooper S
Almost my ultimate dream car
That accolade goes to the 970 Cooper S 
Shame this one's in a shade of green I intensely dislike... Still, nothing a few rattle cans won't fix
My choice of colour would be Old English White White with a black roof...
No prizes for second-guessing my choice: the 1071 Cooper S
Shame this one's in a shade of green I intensely dislike... Still, nothing a few rattle cans won't fix
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