BPGA replacement on 308SW

[Tom79]

UPDATE
I bought a replacement unit through AliExpress, approx £135 including postage and customs fees and arrived well packed in just over a week.
Finally found time to fit it yesterday, between showers. Photos of layout and wiring, plus all cables/wires labelled with tie-on tags.
Layout on my 308SW completely different from YouTube videos of 508, so took extra time to work out how to remove the BGPA from vehicle - easiest is to remove the mounting bracket and then remove screws attaching BGPA to bracket. After removing the top and bottom covers, it is simply a matter of transferring the wires over to the new unit together with any fuses that are missing on the new unit (2 in my case - this is because the same part is used on several Peugeot and Citroen vehicles).
Followed the battery reconnect / BSI procedure (see Marc's reply above) et viola! No service/warning lights and vehicle started fine.
Just had to reset the time/date and passenger window anti-trap, which is normal when battery disconnected.
So hoping problems now fixed but need to monitor over the next few days and weeks, as the original problem was intermittent until it refused to start at all.
Total cost about £135, compared to garage quote of £350 parts plus estimated £620 labour = £970 plus VAT.
Good luck all, and thanks again Marc for your kind help.

Hi dram33,
Thanks for posting this, it was most helpful.
Would you mind sharing the AliExpress link for the part you bought please?
Also, were there any other non-AliExpress sites you looked at, that were offering the part at sensible prices?

Have you had any related problems or faults since you carried out the replacement please?

Many thanks,
Tom79

[GiveMeABreak]

Ok, so no configuration on this model for the BPGA.

It's the engine fuse box on this that needs configuring not the BGPA, but it's essential as said, that you document and photograph the exact connections of the original to the correct locations before you remove them, as the connections vary between models and there's no standard replacement guide.

[Tom79]

Ok, so no configuration on this model for the BPGA.

It's the engine fuse box on this that needs configuring not the BGPA, but it's essential as said, that you document and photograph the exact connections of the original to the correct locations before you remove them, as the connections vary between models and there's no standard replacement guide.

Thanks Marc, very much appreciated. I'll let you know how I get on.
Regards,
Tom

[dram773]

Hi Tom,

This was the item:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005006 ... 18026bNUsW
but I guess that any of the other suppliers offering 9675350380 or 9675350280 would be ok - just check their feedback.
Current price of above is £122.03 plus taxes and shipping (you'll see the total price when you add to the shopping cart).
If you need it faster there are listings on Ebay but usually at a significant premium of course.
I've had no problems with the replacement unit so far - hopefully they've changed the design or specs of the relay and it will last longer than the original!
Good luck!
PS Mine was clearly a new unit, not repaired/reconditioned. The latter are also listed on AliExpress but not much cheaper than new ones so I didn't chance it.

[Tom79]

Hi Tom,
In my (rather limited) experience, the common fault with the BPGA is that the relay develops an intermittent or permanent fault. In which case, bypassing it by connecting the two main terminals will confirm the fault. For example, if the vehicle becomes 'locked out' and prevents the engine from turning, this will enable you to start it. The electrical warnings are typical of a failing BPGA but, of course, there are other possible causes. If the bypass trick doesn't resolve the issues I would suggest getting diagnostics to see what fault codes come up before splashing out on replacement parts.

Hi dram773,
I replaced the BPGA unit yesterday, I bought the replacement from Neo brothers in UK. It was pretty straightforward, following the advice from yourself and Marc. There is a good youtube video on a 3008 BPGA replacement by Adam Automotive, which I also found helpful. Anyway after carrying out the replacement the previous faults on the touch screen I had cleared successfully. I was also experiencing rapid battery drain (aprox 25% of the charge over-night), which I hope is now solved. Thanks again for your advice.

[Tom79]

Ok, so no configuration on this model for the BPGA.

It's the engine fuse box on this that needs configuring not the BGPA, but it's essential as said, that you document and photograph the exact connections of the original to the correct locations before you remove them, as the connections vary between models and there's no standard replacement guide.

Thanks Marc, very much appreciated. I'll let you know how I get on.
Regards,
Tom

Hi Marc, I carried out the replacement of the BPGA unit successfully yesterday. Thanks for your advice and checking whether configuring was necessary that was really helpful. Everthing seems to be working fine now, no errors on the touch screen. I will keep an eye on the battery drain, which was a another problem hopefully linked to the failed BPGA.

[dram773]

Hi Tom,
Glad it all went ok and let's hope that is problem solved
Cheers
dram

[GiveMeABreak]

Yes, thanks for taking the time to update the thread, it will help others.

[Chookaroo]

Hi all - first time poster having similar issues to others on this thread. Would someone mind checking my VIN to see if the BPGA needs to be programmed by a main dealer? It's a 2015 308 hatchback

VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

[GiveMeABreak]

BPGA does not need configuring, only the engine Fuse Box if replaced. However, don't make the common mistake of disconnecting any of the fuses and cables before photographing / recording the exact positions / locations of each as there is no standard reconnection procedure of these as each vehicle is different depending on fitted equipment. We had someone recently who tore into disconnecting it and had issue reconnecting.

[Chookaroo]

BPGA does not need configuring, only the engine Fuse Box if replaced. However, don't make the common mistake of disconnecting any of the fuses and cables before photographing / recording the exact positions / locations of each as there is no standard reconnection procedure of these as each vehicle is different depending on fitted equipment. We had someone recently who tore into disconnecting it and had issue reconnecting.

Thanks for responding, my mistake for confusing the Fuse Box and the BPGA - clearly I have no expertise to attempt to carry out the work myself! Just asking to see if a good independent will be able to help me, or whether I'd reluctantly have to go to a main dealer.

[GiveMeABreak]

Make sure you first disconnect (and later reconnect the battery using the BSI Reset / Battery Disconnect / Reconnect Procedure

If it's the engine Fuse Box, a replacement will need configuring with a professional level Diagnostic tool like Diagbox, but the electrical supplies protection & management unit doesn't.

[Chookaroo]

Hi all - first time poster having similar issues to others on this thread. Would someone mind checking my VIN to see if the BPGA needs to be programmed by a main dealer? It's a 2015 308 hatchback

VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

Took it in to an independent, and got the following fault codes back:
P0494-62 Cooling fan signal
P16BB-00 Short in Starter System. Main Agent only

Does that sound consistent with BPGA issues people have had? Or does it sound like something completely different?

Symptoms like others have mentioned include Electrical Circuit fault on main display, Start/Stop not working, and Service light on.

Any advice appreciated before I reluctantly go to the dealer

[GiveMeABreak]

Fault Code:	P0494 62
Description of Fault:	Fan assembly: Lack of coherence of the signal. Description of the diagnostics: Detection of a lack of coherence between the status of the fan assembly and the fan assembly slow speed control.
Conditions for Fault to clear:	When driving
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active:	Activation of the fan assembly at fast speed Request for opening the piloted flaps (If the vehicle is fitted with it) Deactivation of the anti-bubbling limitation Activation of the opening of the motorised coolant outlet housing Activation of the fan assembly at slow speed Fan assembly slow speed regulation reference value Reduction in the activation thresholds for the coolant temperature alert Switching on of the warning lamp and/or warning message: Engine coolant temperature warning lamp "SERVICE" warning lamp.
Symptoms:	Lack of power Engine hesitating, cutting out Starting problem
Suspect Areas:	Fuses Fan assembly Fan unit relay Electrical harness Connectors Engine ECU Dual speed fan assembly electric control unit Supplies protection and management unit

I don't have the full code for the other one for this engine, so can't help with that one.

[dram773]

Marc's code analysis shows that the BPGA is just one of the suspect areas. Nevertheless, you might be able to eliminate it from the list of suspects by connecting a (thick) cable between the two main posts hidden behind sliding covers on the BPGA. This bypasses the relay. But don't attempt to drive the vehicle with the cable in situ - it's just a quick-and-dirty test.