C5 Aircross PureTech 180 S&S Shine EAT8 - Belt issue still a thing?

[zakazak]

I am interested in buying my next C5. I found a really good deal on a C5 Aircross from late 2019 with PureTech 180 S&S Shine EAT8.
Does this particular engine still have the issue with the timing belt? The one where it runs in the oil and start to dissolve and needs to be replaced every 6 years?

Any other issues to look out for?

Thanks!

[Steve Walsh]

Personally I wouldn't have the 1.2 puretech for free!
I have a friend with one, it is on it's 3rd belt and drinks more oil than fuel. There is also plenty of info on web regarding a Class action against manufacturers


Just my opinion, others may have a more favourable one

[zakazak]

Personally I wouldn't have the 1.2 puretech for free!
I have a friend with one, it is on it's 3rd belt and drinks more oil than fuel. There is also plenty of info on web regarding a Class action against manufacturers


Just my opinion, others may have a more favourable one

Well, this would be the 1.6 4 cylinder PureTech. No idea if what makes a difference?

[Steve Walsh]

The 1.6 4cyl is a different engine, sorry for the bad info

Steve

[GiveMeABreak]

Personally I wouldn't have the 1.2 puretech for free!
I have a friend with one, it is on it's 3rd belt and drinks more oil than fuel. There is also plenty of info on web regarding a Class action against manufacturers


Just my opinion, others may have a more favourable one

Well, this would be the 1.6 4 cylinder PureTech. No idea if what makes a difference?

I f you pop your VIN up I'll confirm the type of belt. Please post your VIN in full without spaces - it will be automatically masked from public view after submitting your post & will only be visible to staff.

[zakazak]

Personally I wouldn't have the 1.2 puretech for free!
I have a friend with one, it is on it's 3rd belt and drinks more oil than fuel. There is also plenty of info on web regarding a Class action against manufacturers


Just my opinion, others may have a more favourable one

Well, this would be the 1.6 4 cylinder PureTech. No idea if what makes a difference?

I f you pop your VIN up I'll confirm the type of belt. Please post your VIN in full without spaces - it will be automatically masked from public view after submitting your post & will only be visible to staff.

Hi, I got the VIN today: VR7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

I would be happy about any additional info you can provider

Also, does anyone have the service intervals (and what is included) for the puretech 180 C5 Aircross?

[GiveMeABreak]

So this engine has a timing CHAIN, not a belt, so nothing to worry about and doesn't need to be changed under normal circumstances.

General vehicle servicing is every year or 30k KM, whichever is reached first.

[zakazak]

So this engine has a timing CHAIN, not a belt, so nothing to worry about and doesn't need to be changed under normal circumstances.

General vehicle servicing is every year or 30k KM, whichever is reached first.

Thanks!

General vehicle service included oil, oil filter?
Any info on spark plugs or other components changing interval?

[GiveMeABreak]

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[RichardW]

That is presumably the Prince Engine...frying pan and fire spring to mind!

[zakazak]

That is presumably the Prince Engine...frying pan and fire spring to mind!

What do you mean by that?

[RichardW]

It doesn't have a great reputation - timing chain problems, fouling the inlet valves, general crapness of various parts of the engine.

[zakazak]

It doesn't have a great reputation - timing chain problems, fouling the inlet valves, general crapness of various parts of the engine.

Interesting because I couldn't really find anything negative online regarding the PureTech 180.
Quite the opposite, people have praised it as a very reliable (and currently the most reliable) PSA engine.

[RichardW]

It seems to be based on the 'old' 1.6 THP engine, do a search on Prince engine in the MINI. Not to say they haven't fixed some or all of the issues...

[paulmac1978]

I believe the issues frequently reported relate to the pre 2016 engine also known as the THP engine, the current 1.6 Puretech is mentioned on a several sites as seemingly trouble free with all past issues resolved. It’s certainly difficult to find anyone reporting any faults. I have a 2022 C5 X Puretech petrol 180 bhp (only 60 petrol only versions sold in the UK apparently) and covered 35,000 miles in 18 months with zero issues. MPG wise I manage 45-51mpg.

The same engine is used in higher volumes with 1.6 hybrid across many Stellantis brands and I’ve yet to find any owners reporting any engine issues.

Just my opinion but it’s an excellent engine. I also change the oil and filter between services to so every 10k, standard service intervals are 20k.