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Equipment loan pool

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In response to Neil's February Ferret thread which today pointed to the "Start a new thread" challenge I thought I'd start this thread for an idea which has been floating around in my mind for some time. The idea is simply to make known to other members any NON-CAR RELATED equipment you may have which you are prepared to loan out to others for specific purposes!! Any loans will be arranged between members using the PM service to ensure no private details are published! See how it goes!! :-D

To set the ball rolling I have two pairs of (recently untested) walky talky type personal radios which I believe can be used as a set of four and are very handy in certain circumstances!!

PM me if they interest you!
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Having had such an underwhelming response to this thread I have to remove the Red words in the first post and say any equipment for any purpose instead! :-D

Now incorporating Jay Bruce's idea for the borrower to pay a deposit to the lender before despatch which will be returned, when the equipment is returned, less the lender's cost of the postage!

Use this thread for initial requests and offers and then go to private messaging to arrange your individual loans!

The FCF may have its own no cost hire shop!! :-D
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I'm repeating an offer I had made in another thread, I've got the Pleiades on vehicle flaring tool for 3.5mm LMH ends as used on the BX. This is the one with the two die blocks, insert the pipe between them, tighten the two bolts that secure the blocks together, screw in the mandrel, and creates the bulbous flare ~1cm from pipe end that the black rubber sleeve expands over to form the seal. Can be used on the vehicle, or you can slot the bottom block into the ways of a vice if you are working at the bench.

[I'll add pictures later on, next time I am at the workshop]

I'll lend anyone on here the tool for £100 fully refundable deposit, minus outbound postage. The way I'd say this needs to work is you send me £100, I'll post the tool down to you in the cheapest insured way possible, you use the tool, do your job, when finished post it back to me, once I receive it back in good condition, I'll deduct the outward postage from the deposit and send you the change.

For example £100 deposit, ~£7.50 postage, you get the tool, post it back to me, I send you £100 - £7.50 = £92.50 "change" / refund.
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I've now subscribed to the thread meaning I will get a notification of every reply. I will keep an eye on here for any requests.

I'm not going to list every tool I have, but I will make similar offers for any requested specialist tools that I happen to have. My basic idea behind the deposit I set on the tools is to protect myself so that if, for whatever reason, the loaned tool doesn't get returned, I can buy a replacement with the deposit money. However, the deal is that I am returning the deposit after the tool's returned, so it gives y'all access to some really gucci tools.
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I have to buy all my own tools, as whenever I borrow someone else's, I break or lose the bloody things, as Mr. H. Razor will confirm...
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I ripped the face off someone who returned a rake of nearly new tools looking like he'd dug them out of a puddle in a scrapyard, including breaking the gauge on my pressure bleeder, he replied "Ah but, I just treated them like my own and abused the $H1T out of them" - he's now a former friend.
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Jay-Bruce wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 02:12 I ripped the face off someone who returned a rake of nearly new tools looking like he'd dug them out of a puddle in a scrapyard, including breaking the gauge on my pressure bleeder, he replied "Ah but, I just treated them like my own and abused the $H1T out of them" - he's now a former friend.
Points for honest response but the brass neck of that attitude!

I'd be completely happy with that line if it was presented along with a full suite of brand new replacements or followed immediately by "obviously tot up the damage and I'll sort out the cost"

Staggering.
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I could own an unbreakable tool, use and abuse it every day for years, and it'd be fine.
If I borrow the same tool from someone else, I'll break it in a day. So I don't any more!
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This thread has just reminded me of something i need to return to a member on here that was loaned to me over 18 months ago #-o :oops:

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admiral51 wrote: 26 Mar 2023, 18:58 This thread has just reminded me of something i need to return to a member on here that was loaned to me over 18 months ago #-o :oops:

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Jay-Bruce.

Would love to see a photo of the brake flare tool so I can understand what is involved in using it. I’ve read in the forum about on vehicle flaring tools but if a pipe is shot, it surely cannot be used in-situ unless there is space to operate it and some of the pipes I might need to do have ZERO chance of being done in-situ.

I might follow the blog post that Peter306 posted on the other thread. I might not. I need to make a decision SHARPISH as I now have 10 days to get the car retested…
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Given the urgency of your timeline, I sneaked down to the workshop to grab pictures ASAP. Because I was in civies (Clean Clothes) I wasn't for faffing about with emery cloth and WD40 to clean the tool up for it's photoshoot, and similarly you'll have to excuse the manky state of the workbench in these pics. However, here's a few pics of the Pleiades in situ 3.5mm pipe flaring tool I have available for loan with deposit, minus postage charges.

As you can see it's a toaty wee thing, around the size of a normal set of dies for a conventional vice mounted flare tool.
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Zooming in a bit you can see it's a 5 part assembly, 2x locking bolts, 2x die forming blocks, 1x mandrel screw.
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Opening it up by undoing the 2x locking screws you can see it clearly.
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Sorry, I couldn't find any citroen 3.5mm cuni to mock this up, but you'd need to buy a coil of this from Euro Car Care or Pleiades anyways. The operation starts by slotting the pipe from the thin groove on the left of the picture up to the line with the V, hook the hollow section of the mandrel over the pipe:
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Assemble the second die block over the other gubbins:
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Run in the locking screws; and at this point I put it in a vice to show it can be used in the vice or on the vehicle:
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Or if being done on the vehicle, you can put an inch spanner (slightly bigger than 25mm, smaller than 26mm), rather than dig out my imperial stuff, I've just used a shifter in these pictures
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I forgot to measure the spanner size of the mandrel hex, but it'll be in the region of 19/22mm (3/4" / 7/8"), wind in the mandrel screw till it bottoms out, undo the locking screws, remove the top die block, extricate pipe end from mandrel screw, slide on rubber, poke pipe in port, run up pipe nut (Pleiades do nice stainless ones :-) )route your pipe to the other end, rinse repeat to flare the second end.

I've gone into "teach your granny to sook eggs" levels of details in the above, but the process is no different from a conventional brake pipe on-vehicle flaring tool, just a special tubing and differently shaped dies/mandrel. The Locking screws are Grade 5 1/4" UNC and have a 7/16" AF or 11mm spanner size, so care must be taken not to lose or break them.
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Jay-Bruce wrote: 28 Mar 2023, 17:49 I forgot to measure the spanner size of the mandrel hex, but it'll be in the region of 19/22mm (3/4" / 7/8"), wind in the mandrel screw till it bottoms out, undo the locking screws, remove the top die block, extricate pipe end from mandrel screw, slide on rubber, poke pipe in port, run up pipe nut (Pleiades do nice stainless ones :-) )route your pipe to the other end, rinse repeat to flare the second end.

I've gone into "teach your granny to sook eggs" levels of details in the above, but the process is no different from a conventional brake pipe on-vehicle flaring tool, just a special tubing and differently shaped dies/mandrel. The Locking screws are Grade 5 1/4" UNC and have a 7/16" AF or 11mm spanner size, so care must be taken not to lose or break them.
Great description. I have PM'd you.

So the mandrill is put over the pipe end whilst it is in the half of the die before the second half of the die is clamped over? Presumably this is to line up the 'V' line and the relieved line in the mandrill.

I read somewhere about your previous poor experiences with loaning tools. If you wish to specify a torque for the UNC bolts, that would be useful. I'm not your typical Neanderthal so don't necessarily go daft with torque up bolts but a specified torque would be ideal. I imagine it wouldn't require much nipping up to grab the pipe securely and prevent slippage.
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Roger, if you need an guidance to use this tool when you come to do the job, please do feel free to give me a ring and I'll talk you through the job :)
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CitroJim wrote: 29 Mar 2023, 12:19 Roger, if you need an guidance to use this tool when you come to do the job, please do feel free to give me a ring and I'll talk you through the job :)
Thanks Jim but question directly related to Jay primarily because he's had a bad experience in the past with a 'former friend' so just wanting him to rest assured that the tool is in good hands and it will be cared for.

Tool is easy enough to use. However, what would you recommended for deburring the end of such a small pipe diameter?