2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Moderator: RichardW
-
- Posts: 8061
- Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
- Location: Somewhere in North Wales, Anglesey
- My Cars: M reg Xm S2 2.1td Auto Exclusive. 269k and rising
L reg XM S1 V6 12v Manual SEi
L 94 XM 2.1 TD auto total resto
2008 Peugeot 207 Sw 1.6 16v hdi. 217k and rising
2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
This is the rear window Chris.. All other three windows are behaving no problem Inc drivers.
Like I said.. Its just opening on its own. Also in lexia it has communication with the door module but doesn't recognise the ecu..
Like I said.. Its just opening on its own. Also in lexia it has communication with the door module but doesn't recognise the ecu..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
- white exec
- Moderating Team
- Posts: 7445
- Joined: 21 Dec 2015, 12:46
- Location: Sayalonga, Malaga, Spain
- My Cars: 1996 XM 2.5TD Exclusive hatch RHD
1992 BX19D Millesime hatch LHD
previously 1989 BX19RD, 1998 ZX 1.9D auto, 2001 Xantia 1.8i auto
and lots of Rovers before that: 1935 Ten, 1947 Sixteen, 1960 P5 3-litre, 1966 P6 2000, 1972 P6 2000TC, and 1975 P6B 3500S - x 1752
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
OK, rear...
A stuck or sticky switch?
Can't be undue friction, as that's only detected by the anti-pinch on the driver's door . . . unless anti-pinch got added to the others as well?
A stuck or sticky switch?
Can't be undue friction, as that's only detected by the anti-pinch on the driver's door . . . unless anti-pinch got added to the others as well?
Chris
-
- Posts: 8061
- Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
- Location: Somewhere in North Wales, Anglesey
- My Cars: M reg Xm S2 2.1td Auto Exclusive. 269k and rising
L reg XM S1 V6 12v Manual SEi
L 94 XM 2.1 TD auto total resto
2008 Peugeot 207 Sw 1.6 16v hdi. 217k and rising
2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Taken switches off still cones down without switches attached at all..
So onto wiring diagram. Or pull a. Fuse or take plug off the motor..
So onto wiring diagram. Or pull a. Fuse or take plug off the motor..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
- myglaren
- Forum Admin Team
- Posts: 25465
- Joined: 02 Mar 2008, 13:30
- Location: Washington
- My Cars: Mazda 6
Ooops.
Previously:
2009 Honda Civic :(
C5, C5, Xantia, BX, GS, Visa.
R4, R11TXE, R14, R30TX - x 4920
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Have you tried disabling the rear windows Paul?
-
- Posts: 8061
- Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
- Location: Somewhere in North Wales, Anglesey
- My Cars: M reg Xm S2 2.1td Auto Exclusive. 269k and rising
L reg XM S1 V6 12v Manual SEi
L 94 XM 2.1 TD auto total resto
2008 Peugeot 207 Sw 1.6 16v hdi. 217k and rising
2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Just taken fuse f15 out which kills power to both rear windows.
Its something to do with this replacement bsi.. Its from an 03 car.. Its only happend since I swapped bsi over.. I took switches off the rear. Door and the drivers door pack..
Opend the drivers door pack no corrosion or wet in there.. Its getting a signal from the. Bsi but I'm not sure what.. Which is a right shame because all the other issues are sorted.. Been out. I'm it this afternoon for couple of hours no egr valve fault either...
Its something to do with this replacement bsi.. Its from an 03 car.. Its only happend since I swapped bsi over.. I took switches off the rear. Door and the drivers door pack..
Opend the drivers door pack no corrosion or wet in there.. Its getting a signal from the. Bsi but I'm not sure what.. Which is a right shame because all the other issues are sorted.. Been out. I'm it this afternoon for couple of hours no egr valve fault either...
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
- myglaren
- Forum Admin Team
- Posts: 25465
- Joined: 02 Mar 2008, 13:30
- Location: Washington
- My Cars: Mazda 6
Ooops.
Previously:
2009 Honda Civic :(
C5, C5, Xantia, BX, GS, Visa.
R4, R11TXE, R14, R30TX - x 4920
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
There should be a (slider) switch on the driver's door panel that disables the rear door switches.
-
- Posts: 8061
- Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
- Location: Somewhere in North Wales, Anglesey
- My Cars: M reg Xm S2 2.1td Auto Exclusive. 269k and rising
L reg XM S1 V6 12v Manual SEi
L 94 XM 2.1 TD auto total resto
2008 Peugeot 207 Sw 1.6 16v hdi. 217k and rising
2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Yup done it all Steve. Doesn't matter what I do.. It opens.. With or without switches attached. Or with the disable. Button pressed..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
-
- Donor 2023
- Posts: 2625
- Joined: 24 May 2007, 10:11
- Location: poole dorset uk
- Lexia Available: Yes
- My Cars: C5 X7 2009 2.0 HDI VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]
C4 2010 2.0 HDi Exclusive VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] - x 378
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Ok just a random hunch
All windows are electric and can be operated from the drivers controls.
Is it possible there is some intermittent connection within the wiring leading to the rear door window plug that means it will operate as if being the drivers window ie anti pinch.
Removing the switch itself will only disable the switch, it will not stop any worn insulation on the wiring to the plug confusing the ECU that controls the window itself ?
Yes it has happened since the change of BSI but it could happen at any time and nothing to do with the BSI change ( apologies if BSI/ECU swap reference is incorrect )
Colin
All windows are electric and can be operated from the drivers controls.
Is it possible there is some intermittent connection within the wiring leading to the rear door window plug that means it will operate as if being the drivers window ie anti pinch.
Removing the switch itself will only disable the switch, it will not stop any worn insulation on the wiring to the plug confusing the ECU that controls the window itself ?
Yes it has happened since the change of BSI but it could happen at any time and nothing to do with the BSI change ( apologies if BSI/ECU swap reference is incorrect )
Colin
-
- Posts: 8061
- Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
- Location: Somewhere in North Wales, Anglesey
- My Cars: M reg Xm S2 2.1td Auto Exclusive. 269k and rising
L reg XM S1 V6 12v Manual SEi
L 94 XM 2.1 TD auto total resto
2008 Peugeot 207 Sw 1.6 16v hdi. 217k and rising
2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Im fairly convinced its bsi.. As the auto wipers won't work as there is no rain sensor (which is built into the bsi) setting.. I initially bought the cheap set to prove it was the engine ecu that I zapped. Which I have proved. It was only the window playing up I'd consider it.. But as its window.. Plus no rain sensor for the wipers and also the rear wiper config was also set to n
Missing...
Missing...
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
-
- Donor 2023
- Posts: 2625
- Joined: 24 May 2007, 10:11
- Location: poole dorset uk
- Lexia Available: Yes
- My Cars: C5 X7 2009 2.0 HDI VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]
C4 2010 2.0 HDi Exclusive VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff] - x 378
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Sorry Paul i had missed that info, like i said just a hunch
-
- Posts: 8061
- Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
- Location: Somewhere in North Wales, Anglesey
- My Cars: M reg Xm S2 2.1td Auto Exclusive. 269k and rising
L reg XM S1 V6 12v Manual SEi
L 94 XM 2.1 TD auto total resto
2008 Peugeot 207 Sw 1.6 16v hdi. 217k and rising
2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Looking at wireing diagrams the cars ecu had issues with cruise control and cooling fan slow speed. From what I can, see on wiring diagrams they are both associated with 32 pin grey connector on the ecu..
So.. I'm wondering now. If there's anything obvious inside the ecu on that socket area in put. I shall see if I can open the ecu up..
any ecu gurus on here once it open who may be able to spot anything..?
So.. I'm wondering now. If there's anything obvious inside the ecu on that socket area in put. I shall see if I can open the ecu up..
any ecu gurus on here once it open who may be able to spot anything..?
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
-
- Donor 2023
- Posts: 13743
- Joined: 01 Apr 2012, 09:47
- Location: Reading
- My Cars: C5 Mk2 VTX+ estate.
- x 3007
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
I am not an ECU guru in any form, but I would look for any 'grey' solder joins (as opposed to nice silvery ones). A grey join is what is known as a 'dry' join, and is a poor electrical join. Touching it with a soldering iron may well sort it out. My Mum had a problem with her computer keyboard (many years ago), and various 'repair' places had not resolved it. I asked Mum which keys were involved, and then searched the tracks associated with just those keys. One dry join leapt out at me, and a touch with a soldering iron permanently fixed that fault. (The difference between a dry join and a good one is like the 'grey' side and the 'shiny' side of Bacofoil).
If you do not find a dry join take a very close look (maybe with a magnifying lens) for any joins with cracks in them (they can be hairline fine, hence the magnifying lens). Should you find one a careful touch with a soldering iron (and a tiny dab of solder) should fix it. However, if you find one does not mean there won't be more, so keep looking. The most likely place is where the connecters are fixed to the board.
If you do find any dry/cracked joins (and fixed them) DON'T put the old ECU back in. It is the only device with the CORRECT mileage (for that car) in it. See if you can find a company that can reset the mileages on the instrument cluster and the replacement ECU. If you do, send them off (explaining the circumstances), and hopefully they will reset them back to zero for you. Then put the instrument panel and the original ECU back into the car. The instrument panel will then get the correct mileage. If the car then works properly you have a spare 'virginised' ECU available for future use, otherwise, if you need to use it, it will get the correct mileage from the instrument panel.
If you do not find a dry join take a very close look (maybe with a magnifying lens) for any joins with cracks in them (they can be hairline fine, hence the magnifying lens). Should you find one a careful touch with a soldering iron (and a tiny dab of solder) should fix it. However, if you find one does not mean there won't be more, so keep looking. The most likely place is where the connecters are fixed to the board.
If you do find any dry/cracked joins (and fixed them) DON'T put the old ECU back in. It is the only device with the CORRECT mileage (for that car) in it. See if you can find a company that can reset the mileages on the instrument cluster and the replacement ECU. If you do, send them off (explaining the circumstances), and hopefully they will reset them back to zero for you. Then put the instrument panel and the original ECU back into the car. The instrument panel will then get the correct mileage. If the car then works properly you have a spare 'virginised' ECU available for future use, otherwise, if you need to use it, it will get the correct mileage from the instrument panel.
James
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
Ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
-
- Posts: 8061
- Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
- Location: Somewhere in North Wales, Anglesey
- My Cars: M reg Xm S2 2.1td Auto Exclusive. 269k and rising
L reg XM S1 V6 12v Manual SEi
L 94 XM 2.1 TD auto total resto
2008 Peugeot 207 Sw 1.6 16v hdi. 217k and rising
2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Thanks James. I've got it open. And I don't have enough time to go through it lol. As in its very integrate.. Attached some pics one of each side of the ecu...
Couple of resisters there to check with meter lol.
Couple of resisters there to check with meter lol.
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
-
- Posts: 8061
- Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
- Location: Somewhere in North Wales, Anglesey
- My Cars: M reg Xm S2 2.1td Auto Exclusive. 269k and rising
L reg XM S1 V6 12v Manual SEi
L 94 XM 2.1 TD auto total resto
2008 Peugeot 207 Sw 1.6 16v hdi. 217k and rising
2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
Question.. I've seen another ecu bsi set on ebay for 55 quid.. Now the bsi is identical to my original one which cooling fan and cruise didn't work on.. But Im concerned over dates.. As attached. There's a year between them. Mines got 04 date on it the ebay one 03.. Do these dates matter as long as they are identical..?
Ebay one.. My original.. I put an, earlyer bsi in which is what I'm sure is causing the window issue.. And lack of auto wipers
Ebay one.. My original.. I put an, earlyer bsi in which is what I'm sure is causing the window issue.. And lack of auto wipers
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
Re: 2004 c5 hdi 110 cooling fan woes FIXED and now running (pg 6 on) .
The mileage is not stored on the ECU on this car, the only places the mileage is stored is the BSI & the instrument panel.Hell Razor5543 wrote: ↑31 Jul 2021, 19:43
If you do find any dry/cracked joins (and fixed them) DON'T put the old ECU back in. It is the only device with the CORRECT mileage (for that car) in it. See if you can find a company that can reset the mileages on the instrument cluster and the replacement ECU. If you do, send them off (explaining the circumstances), and hopefully they will reset them back to zero for you. Then put the instrument panel and the original ECU back into the car. The instrument panel will then get the correct mileage. If the car then works properly you have a spare 'virginised' ECU available for future use, otherwise, if you need to use it, it will get the correct mileage from the instrument panel.
Besides, mileage 'correction' guys generally don't ask questions or give two hoots what you want the mileage set to or why.