Specifications of the following C5II H3+ and Xantia non-hydralic (estate, diesel) spheres

[wbgenetic]

Hello folks,

I keep digging but fail to find all characteristics:

1. Volume
2. Pressure
3. Hole diameter

Of the following spheres:

Citroen C5II diesel, estate H3+:

• Standard front side : C 552 FH

• Comfort front side : C5 COMF FH

• Front middle (standard): C 562 FQ

• Front middle (comfort) : C 562 FR

-

• Standard rear side: C 544 RH

• Comfort rear side: C5B COMF RH

• Rear middle: C 544 RQ

Xantia, estate, diesel non-hydractive:

• Standard front side : XA 55 FC

• Comfort front side : XA VL COMF HL

-

• Standard rear side : XA 40 RD

• Comfort rear side: XA HA COMF HL

I would also appreciate if you direct me to a website that has this info and I can find it myself.

Thanks a lot in advance,
V.

[Hell Razor5543]

These people might be able to help you;

http://www.aepdirect.com/

[wbgenetic]

Their website is not really helpful ...

[Gibbo2286]

Try this one:

http://www.sphere-shop.co.uk/

[GiveMeABreak]

This is for the Mark II C5 - I do not have hole diameter info - but see the note at the bottom concerning dampers on C5s.

C5 MKII (2004-2007) Suspension Sphere Info
Hydractive 3 Front Suspension Spheres

Vehicle	Engine	Suspension Unit ID number	Volume	Calibration Pressure
Saloon and Estate	EW7J4	HF	385 cc	57 Bars
Saloon and Estate	EW10A	HG	385 cc	57 Bars
Saloon and Estate	DV6TED4	HG	385 cc	57 Bars
Saloon and Estate	DW10BTED4	KC	385 cc	57 Bars

Hydractive 3 Rear Suspension Spheres

Vehicle	Engine	Suspension Unit ID number	Volume	Calibration Pressure
Saloon	EW7J4	KB	385 cc	31 Bars
Saloon	EW10A	KB	385 cc	31 Bars
Saloon	DV6TED4	KB	385 cc	31 Bars
Saloon	DW10BTED4	KD	385 cc	31 Bars
Estate	EW7J4	HT	385 cc	44 Bars
Estate	EW10A	HT	385 cc	44 Bars
Estate	DV6TED4	HT	385 cc	44 Bars
Estate	DW10BTED4	HT	385 cc	44 Bars

Hydractive 3+ Front Suspension Spheres

Vehicle	Engine	Suspension Unit ID number	Volume	Calibration Pressure
Saloon and Estate	ES9A	HI	385 cc	52 Bars
Saloon and Estate	DW12TED4	HI	385 cc	52 Bars

Hydractive 3+ Rear Suspension Spheres

Vehicle	Engine	Suspension Unit ID number	Volume	Calibration Pressure
Saloon	ES9A	KE	385 cc	25 Bars
Saloon	DW12TED4	KE	385 cc	25 Bars
Estate	ES9A	HW	385 cc	44 Bars
Estate	DW12TED4	HW	385 cc	44 Bars

Front Hydractive Regulator Accumulator Sphere

Vehicle	Engine	Suspension Unit ID number	Volume	Calibration Pressure
Saloon	ES9A	HQ	385 cc	62 Bars
Saloon	DW12TED4	HD	385 cc	62 Bars
Estate	ES9A	HD	385 cc	62 Bars
Estate	DW12TED4	HD	385 cc	62 Bars

Rear Hydractive Regulator Accumulator Sphere

Vehicle	Engine	Suspension Unit ID number	Volume	Calibration Pressure
Saloon	ES9A	HR	385 cc	44 Bars
Saloon	DW12TED4	GV	385 cc	44 Bars
Estate	ES9A	HR	385 cc	44 Bars
Estate	DW12TED4	HR	385 cc	44 Bars

Note: The dampers are integrated in the hydractive regulator and, according to version, in the hydractive accumulator.

Xantia MKI (Non-Hydractive) Suspension Sphere Info
Key - Diaphragm types:
D = Desmopan
U = Urépan
M = Multicouche (*)
Note: From 06/93, RPO No. 6056, certain pneumatic units are equipped with multi-sheet diaphragms.

Main Pressure Accumulator

Vehicle	Suspension Unit ID number	Volume (cc)	Pressure (Bars)	Damper
All Models	96 154 588 : D	400	62 (+5; -32)	Without
	95 451 376 : U	400	62 (+5; -32)	Without

Front Suspension Spheres

Vehicle	Suspension Unit ID number	Volume (cc)	Pressure (Bars)	Damper centre hole Ø (in mm)
1.6i (XU5JP)	96 169 316 : D	400	70 (+5; -25)	1,65
1.8i (XU7JP)	96 194 445 : U	400	70 (+5; -25)	1,65
1.9D (XUD9A)	96 199 312 : M	450	65
2.0i (XU10J2C)	96 178 589 : D	400	55 (+5; -20)	1,5
1.9TD (XUD9T.F)	96 194 444 : U	400	55 (+5; -20)	1,5
-	96 199 318 : M	450	50	1,5

Rear Suspension Spheres

Vehicle	Suspension Unit ID number	Volume (cc)	Pressure (Bars)	Damper centre hole Ø (in mm)
1.6i (XU5JP)	96 169 314 : D	400	40 (+5 ; -10)	1,1
1.8i (XU7JP)	96 194 439 : U	400	40 (+5 ; -10)	1,1
1.9D (XUD9A)	96 194 439	400	40 (+5 ; -10)	1,1
2.0i (XU10J2C)	96 178 590 : D	400	30 (+5 ; -10)	1
1.9TD (XUD9T.F)	96 194 438 : U	-	-	-

[wbgenetic]

Hi Marc,

yes - this does show some specifications - but I cannot see for example the difference between comfort vs regular spheres like this ...
Is it pressure or is it the damper hole ... or is it volume ... or all 3 ...

[GiveMeABreak]

Remember the systems are COMPLETELY different between the C5 and the Xantia - so you are not comparing the same thing. The systems are also different between the Hydractive 3 and 3+. They were never designed for comfort spheres to be honest and I would never fit them to a Hydractive 3 / 3+ vehicle. The Hydraulic Interface (BHI) handles a lot of the functionality in terms of the pressure, ride height and mode switching / laws, including the anti sink functions.

If you start changing these spheres out - for non standard versions, expect major problems with the car grounding over dips and humpbacks and you'll probably lose some functionality of the system overall.

[wbgenetic]

This is peculiar, I thought that the comfort spheres were sort of standard items ...
Ah well ..

** The Xantia and C5 are different. This is understood. For testing purposes only. Not for daily driver. I was just interested in comparing the models ...

[GiveMeABreak]

There have never been any official ‘comfort’ spheres. They were modified by several places that generally recharged the green spheres for people back in the early GS, CX days, and they started experimenting by changing the pressures and diameters if the the holes on these who wanted a more floaty ride of the older days.

I only ever had these on my early non-hydractive XM where the ride was particularly hard and that helped, but the next XMs were the later type and I never needed them changing. I certainly wouldn’t now with the C5 vehicles.