Lights

[ACTIVE8]

There are some people out there who do not remember to put their lights on at night.

Yes there are those who get in and drive off on their DRL LED'S at night so not having any rear lights on.

The one I saw earlier despite the lights on this pre DRL car being off (the street lights and other cars were making the dummy more obvious from their lights) really took it to another level.

As in outside lights at night off!

Interior light on while driving about at 30mph!

Well done to this founder member of DENSA!

At least we know what you look like.

[CitroJim]

That's madness...

[daviemck2006]

I see a lot of cars driving in town at night with just the drls on. There should be rear drls as well. In some instances drls actually make things worse on the road, not better, well in my opinion anyway

[xantia_v6]

I see a lot of cars driving in town at night with just the drls on. There should be rear drls as well. In some instances drls actually make things worse on the road, not better, well in my opinion anyway

I see in our 308 handbook that in countries where DRLs are mandatory, headlights and taillights are used for DRL, but in other countries only the "dedicated" front DRLs are used. Make sense of that.

[CitroJim]

There's no sense at all in it Mike!

[myglaren]

I think the old Volvo/SAAB system was far better.

[CitroJim]

I think the old Volvo/SAAB system was far better.

Agreed and dim-dips were a bloody good idea too... I'm not a fan of glaring DRLs and think in some ways they compromise safety as they can make indicators hard to see...

[Stickyfinger]

Well Jim, for once I will both disagree and agree

DRLs are great for country roads (where lights should be used but people do not) esp with overhanging tree tunnels etc........

DRLs when placed within headlamps however are stupid and as you say often hide the indicator....

The power of style over good sense......

[Hell Razor5543]

I was driving back from Poole yesterday evening (and it was dark) when I came up behind a car only running on their DRLs. That was interesting.

[CitroJim]

DRLs are great for country roads (where lights should be used but people do not) esp with overhanging tree tunnels etc........

True but dim-dips would be just as good and not so distractingly blinding!

[daviemck2006]

I can't see why drls can't be the dipped beam headlights on as soon as the engine is started.

[CitroJim]

I can't see why drls can't be the dipped beam headlights on as soon as the engine is started.

That's common sense Davie and we can't have that can we?

Also, it would seriously impact upon the profits of the makers of DRLs...

They always say that the mandatory fitment of cats was from a profit motive rather then an environmental one... There are other ways to clean up emissions that don't involve precious metals and running the mixture deliberately richer than it needs to be for best power/economy/emissions...

[Stickyfinger]

DRLs are great for country roads (where lights should be used but people do not) esp with overhanging tree tunnels etc........

True but dim-dips would be just as good and not so distractingly blinding!

Yes and no for me on that.....

BAD are massive great light strips within the headlamp and so bright.....the "style" ones are just stupid and I agree often dangerous

Single "Pin lights" (cree) are great in shadow/light situations as they cut through the "flickering light" and if mounted remote from the headlamp do not blind or overpower the indicators

[CitroJim]

We could debate this subject for years Alasdair!!!

[daviemck2006]

Those ones don't annoy me SF. It's the styled ones that obscure everything else that do. And indicators! Even when people use them, rarely, some of them are nearly impossible to see in the dark when the headlamps are on. And those stupid circular rear ones where they are completely surrounded by the tail/brake lights are murder too. And led brake lights! Sometimes in the sun you can't even see them on at all. Lights should be about safety not blaming style!

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