white smoke

b21playa · Unread post by **b21playa** » 13 Nov 2004, 17:06

i get loads on cold start and misfirring
lasts until engine gets warm or a rev it all out
i know the glows were changed in dec 2003 but dont know with which ones (i got it after this)
any ideas wat it cud be

beezer · Unread post by **beezer** » 13 Nov 2004, 17:48

Glow plugs definitely should be investigated. Fuel filter and water trap too. Could be advance mechanism in pump but eliminate the simpler things first.

b21playa · Unread post by **b21playa** » 13 Nov 2004, 18:57

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by beezer

Glow plugs definitely should be investigated. Fuel filter and water trap too. Could be advance mechanism in pump but eliminate the simpler things first.
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can u suggest repair methods
how can i check the glow plugs?
i'll drain the fuel filter, but wats the water trap?
wat can i do to the advance mechanism to check it?

beezer · Unread post by **beezer** » 13 Nov 2004, 20:02

Stuff about glowplugs on this thread - I would just replace them with good quality ones - GSF shoould help out there. The water trap is at the bottom of your filter unit so by draining it you will have sorted that. If you have not replaced the filter it is a good idea to do so. The advance mechanism is not easy to sort but leave that until you have eliminated all the easy stuff. My guess is still plugs.

b21playa · Unread post by **b21playa** » 13 Nov 2004, 20:50

i pARKED THE CAR UP LAST NIGH AND JUST STARTED IT AFTER PRIMING USING THE BULB. after a few seconds it goes soft again, doesnt stay hard
AS I WAS PRIMING I COULD HEAR SOME AIR LEAKING, BUT DONT KNOW IF ITS NORMAL
I STARTED IT AND IT WAS MISFIRRING AND WITH WHITE SMOKE, EVEN AFTER 5MINS STIL MISFIRES
HOPEFULLY THIS SHOULD HELP
WAT ABOUT GLOW PLUG TIMER/RELAY?

beezer · Unread post by **beezer** » 13 Nov 2004, 23:39

I forgot to put the link: http://www.andyspares.com/discussionfor ... =glowplugs
If you can hear air escaping then there could be a leak indeed but that should affect at all times. The timer could be at fault - how long does the light stay on for?

b21playa · Unread post by **b21playa** » 14 Nov 2004, 16:21

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by beezer

I forgot to put the link: http://www.andyspares.com/discussionfor ... =glowplugs
If you can hear air escaping then there could be a leak indeed but that should affect at all times. The timer could be at fault - how long does the light stay on for?
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the light stay on for about 5secs
how long should it stay on and how does it look like and where is it located?

b21playa · Unread post by **b21playa** » 14 Nov 2004, 16:37

are these the correct plugs?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... eName=WDVW

beezer · Unread post by **beezer** » 14 Nov 2004, 16:44

Sounds like the light is on for about the right time. Plugs look like the right ones. Good quality too. I would change them and take it from there. Torque should be 22Nm or 16lbf ft.

b21playa · Unread post by **b21playa** » 14 Nov 2004, 17:59

im gonna test them next week
ive got to take the intercooler off anyway to replace the gasket and i will test the resistance of the glow plugs and take from there. i think there might be one or two duffs plugs

b21playa · Unread post by **b21playa** » 15 Nov 2004, 15:30

if i cant get it sorted, is there anyone on the board in birmingham that knows what they are doing and will have a look at it for me?[;)]
a nice drink on me

b21playa · Unread post by **b21playa** » 17 Nov 2004, 03:52

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by beezer

Glow plugs definitely should be investigated. Fuel filter and water trap too. Could be advance mechanism in pump but eliminate the simpler things first.
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if it was the advanced mechanim in pump, how can i sort this problem out?
i remeber adjusting a screw on side of pump but the revs went high so i turned it back

beezer · Unread post by **beezer** » 17 Nov 2004, 04:29

Probably easiest thing would be to search out a secondhand pump. I am still thinking about the sound of air escaping....air will cause smoke. Early engines had a gizmo not unlike a vacuum advance to look at but it was a wax sensor to adjust the idle speed when cold. It is unlikely a 95 model would have this. In fact, another thread has got me thinking you might have an ECU on your car. If this is the case then adjusting screws on the pump will not have helped.

b21playa · Unread post by **b21playa** » 17 Nov 2004, 17:35

where would the ecu be?

beezer · Unread post by **beezer** » 17 Nov 2004, 17:57

Probably near the battery somewhere. Usually a rectangular box. If you have more than a couple or so wires coming from your injector pump you likely have an ECU (electronic control unit). Do you have ABS brakes?