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told you Kev ( red_dwarfers )
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this is till you get you GSA welded and on the road to stop you being led astray by Mr Salter
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Paris.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
this is till you get you GSA welded and on the road to stop you being led astray by Mr Salter
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Can't see the French taking that lying down!
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I cant see it happening at all, its just someone has mention this flea brained idea and its hit the news like it does, besides if it does become law the french people will do what they do with most laws they dont like, ignor it.
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Oh but siiirrrr, pleeeeeaaseeee!
What a load of nonsense! I'm sure there's more sensible ways of reducing pollution without getting rid of the odd old car passing through.
Looks like we might have to have the 100th anniversary of Citroen just outside the capital
What a load of nonsense! I'm sure there's more sensible ways of reducing pollution without getting rid of the odd old car passing through.
Looks like we might have to have the 100th anniversary of Citroen just outside the capital
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I think its a sensible idea, why take a valuable classic bagnole dans la centre d'Paris?
Have you seen the way the fekin' Parisians drive! I'm not usually intimidated on foreign roads but Paris and le Peripherique does my head in.
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Have you seen the way the fekin' Parisians drive! I'm not usually intimidated on foreign roads but Paris and le Peripherique does my head in.
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Thing is, as far as I understand it 90% of the pollution is caused at production not use so its more sensible to keep an older car where practical as the emissions over its lifetime (even if that's extended) are less damaging to the environment than production of a new vehicle...
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i think more pollution is caused by blotted blitacrats poutting hot air,
so if they stop all this hot air escaping from house's of commons and french equivalent, this should reduce more polutant than stoping older cars going into the capital citys
so if they stop all this hot air escaping from house's of commons and french equivalent, this should reduce more polutant than stoping older cars going into the capital citys
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Could not of put it better myselfcitronut wrote:i think more pollution is caused by blotted blitacrats poutting hot air,
so if they stop all this hot air escaping from house's of commons and french equivalent, this should reduce more polutant than stoping older cars going into the capital citys
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The amount of pollution from the very few older cars knocking around Paris must be infinitesimal when taken overall. A quick look (and smell) in any town suggests that buses produce far more. They stink and belch smoke like no car ever does. Or, at least the ones around here do. Shocking things. And that's just exhaust pollution; the horrid, ear battering noise their turbo diesel engines make is another form of pollution we can do without...
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Oh I know. Some say "low pollution" on them but occasionally I've seen that much smoke coming out it was almost like a solid "tube" as if it was too busy having a drink of its own oil.
Incidentally does anyone know if modern PSV / HGV's feature direct injection units now or are they sticking to IDI ?
Incidentally does anyone know if modern PSV / HGV's feature direct injection units now or are they sticking to IDI ?
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I'm not sure Andy. I presume they're all DI now judging by the noise and smoke. IDI was originally used by AEC to combat both those issues on London buses. Seems the later engines have forgotten how to... Makes a joke of the London low-emission zones. Lorries don't in general smoke and make objectionable noises so why should a bus?
We've a fleet of Arriva Optare buses running around here and they are hideously noisy. They're automatics (I suspect CVT) and their engines rev to max when they take off from a bus stop or negotiate a speed hump. The howl from the turbo and the general mechanical din they make - along with clouds of foul smoke - has to be seen and heard to believed. Green? Black more like
I guess if you're deaf and have no sense of smell they're OK I've never ridden one as they never go where I want to go and you need a first class honours degree in statistical mathematics to have any hope of deciphering the timetables
We've a fleet of Arriva Optare buses running around here and they are hideously noisy. They're automatics (I suspect CVT) and their engines rev to max when they take off from a bus stop or negotiate a speed hump. The howl from the turbo and the general mechanical din they make - along with clouds of foul smoke - has to be seen and heard to believed. Green? Black more like
I guess if you're deaf and have no sense of smell they're OK I've never ridden one as they never go where I want to go and you need a first class honours degree in statistical mathematics to have any hope of deciphering the timetables
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Many of them are going to be replaced soon with electric busses as a trial.CitroJim wrote:I'm not sure Andy. I presume they're all DI now judging by the noise and smoke. IDI was originally used by AEC to combat both those issues on London buses. Seems the later engines have forgotten how to... Makes a joke of the London low-emission zones. Lorries don't in general smoke and make objectionable noises so why should a bus?
We've a fleet of Arriva Optare buses running around here and they are hideously noisy. They're automatics (I suspect CVT) and their engines rev to max when they take off from a bus stop or negotiate a speed hump. The howl from the turbo and the general mechanical din they make - along with clouds of foul smoke - has to be seen and heard to believed. Green? Black more like
I guess if you're deaf and have no sense of smell they're OK I've never ridden one as they never go where I want to go and you need a first class honours degree in statistical mathematics to have any hope of deciphering the timetables
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Yea, and I'm a pink fairy...Xac wrote: Many of them are going to be replaced soon with electric busses as a trial.
I'll bet if they do ever get round to getting electric buses they'll still smoke and make a hideous racket...
I was amazed at just how noisy a Nissan Leaf is. One went past me this evening - I was walking...
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Yes, but, Jim, the noise is simulated, so that you can hear them coming! Bit like a digital camera with shutter noise. Who thought up that feking idea?
Jim, did you get my PM about V6 wiring diags and cooling fans?
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Jim, did you get my PM about V6 wiring diags and cooling fans?
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Can you choose the noise? A nice V8 sound would be nice but a bit out of keeping with a leaf... I'd have thought a nice fluttering noise would have suited it...
I'll see what I can do... It may not be instant.
Yep, just seen it. I can be terribly bad for not looking at PMs very frequently these days and I've been away from here by and large for a few days...handyman wrote: Jim, did you get my PM about V6 wiring diags and cooling fans?
I'll see what I can do... It may not be instant.
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