Hdi Xantia

[XantiaDaveEire]

Evening chaps
I spotted a very nice Hdi 90bhp green Xantia in Nottingham the other day and now i am in two minds as to whether to actually buy it or not,the bodywork is stunning,interior is perfect and has been regularly serviced etc etc

My main concerns are that i don't know really know much about them or if there is much point in switching to a Hdi over the Xud which i am VERY fond of If i do get it i will stick a tuning box in more than likely.The main reason i want it is because the exterior and interior look like new Stupid reasons for wanting a car i know

Are there any real benefits or advantages with the Hdi's?

I'm after spending (wasting) so much money on this current car that it's making me uneasy buying something that will need as much work again when it's going to leave me out of pocket just buying and actually just collecting the car

Convince me to buy it or tell me i'm mad

[DickieG]

Personally I'd only buy an HDi if it's the 110, same consumption as the 90 but much better performance, IMO the 90 is a bit of a waste of space.

[Peter.N.]

Did they fit the 110 to the Xantia? The 2.0 Hdi is a very good engine, as mentioned the 110 is better but the 90 will give you similar performance to the 1.9 but a much better fuel consumption - if you don't thrash it.

Peter

[myglaren]

I know a couple of people with the HDi90, one with a Picasso and the other with a 307.
Both are bitterly disappointed with the performance.

[DickieG]

Did they fit the 110 to the Xantia?

Yes, all Exclusives and a number of SX's were 110's, world of difference between a 90 and 110.

[Peter.N.]

Ah right

Peter

[Northern_Mike]

Did they fit the 110 to the Xantia?

Yes, all Exclusives and a number of SX's were 110's, world of difference between a 90 and 110.

I have a Berlingo 90 and a Xantia 110.

There is a world of difference between the engines. However, with a tuning box, or even better, a proper remap, the 90 can be made to give at least the same power and torque as the 110.

[citroenxm]

The 110 HDi was initially the FIRST engine and was fitted from 1998 S reg.. So ALL S and T reg HDi cars will be 110.. The XUD 1.9 was then finally replaved on V so this is when theres the choice of 90 or 110 engines in V W X and Y reg cars.

ALL Exclusives are 110 bhp.. but an LX and SX can be either engine.

As for 90 bhp engines, What do you want? I bought in a 90bhp LX Xantia, and when I took it for MOT I was pleasently surprised how well it actually went!! It wasn't a slouch!

As for changing to HDi YES do it! I havent looked back, they just do not compare with each other.. better for high miles, less likely to have head issues, better fuel exconomy within reason of course, quieter!, better starter, no need to wait for heater plugs, or need to change them either!

Theres lots of high miles (well low in comparison) HDi drivers on here, Im one at 223k, and I bought history unknown, loosing water at 156k... Turned out to be water pump. Been perfect since..

[KennyW]

Dave,

I bought a HDi 90 hp and I'm delighted with it as a replacement for the 1.9 TD as already said better fuel economy and power the same. I do think it responses better in acceleration than the 1.9 because it is direct injection.

Otherwise it is the same car, considering a tuning box but in no desperate hurray

Kenny

[Peter.N.]

The Hdi has different torque characteristics to the 1.9, it develops much more at low revs which means less gear changing and clutch wear at take off. Its much more like the 2.1 engine.

Peter

[XantiaDaveEire]

I just cannot make up my mind one way or the other

I'm very frustrated at the moment,i'm leaning towards not buying it simply because of the costs involved and because of how much money i have put into my own

Money is the main reason though i'd have to use all my savings and visit the "bank of mum",other than that i think i'd like to take a punt on it

We will see before the day is out one way or the other

[Citroenmad]

If it is going to stretch you both in terms of finances and time to do any repair work (there is always something, even with the perfect car), then I would stick with your 1.9TD. You have done a lot with that car and spent a lot of money on it, money you probably wont see back if you should sell. Plus you know your car and not the other one ...

Since its the 90bhp version I would stick with yours, performance will be very similar and economy will be slightly better but that doesnt justify the change totally. Yes the HDi is quieter and has a very different nature about it but is that reason enough?

Perhaps if it was the 110 then there might be more reason to change, as your gaining quite a bit of performance.

If your 1.9TD is a good one and your happy with it, just keep it

[Northern_Mike]

As for 90 bhp engines, What do you want? I bought in a 90bhp LX Xantia, and when I took it for MOT I was pleasently surprised how well it actually went!! It wasn't a slouch!

The 90 is fine around town and pottering about, but compared to the 110, at , erm "motorway speeds", for overtaking, it is a slouch. The extra torque of the 110 really tells between 50 and 90 (or more, in Germany of course). You don't even have to change down going up hills like you do with the 90 (which, IME, has little effect other than increasing noise), just put your foot down and ride the big torque wave

[Northern_Mike]

Evening chaps
I spotted a very nice Hdi 90bhp green Xantia in Nottingham the other day and now i am in two minds as to whether to actually buy it or not,the bodywork is stunning,interior is perfect and has been regularly serviced etc etc

My main concerns are that i don't know really know much about them or if there is much point in switching to a Hdi over the Xud which i am VERY fond of If i do get it i will stick a tuning box in more than likely.The main reason i want it is because the exterior and interior look like new Stupid reasons for wanting a car i know

Are there any real benefits or advantages with the Hdi's?

I'm after spending (wasting) so much money on this current car that it's making me uneasy buying something that will need as much work again when it's going to leave me out of pocket just buying and actually just collecting the car

Convince me to buy it or tell me i'm mad

Buy it. Stick a tuning box on it from http://www.tdi-tuning.co.uk" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, and you won't regret it.

The 1.9 isn't a bad engine, but the HDI is a lot better. It's much more driveable, it's more economical, it is going to be newer and more reliable. Some maintenance - cambelts for example, are easier to do than the XUD. Oh, and the car it's in is nice and shiny inside and out, which always helps. It's not a stupid reason for wanting a car. It's not a necessity for me, but I do like the inside at least to be clean.

[XantiaDaveEire]

If it is going to stretch you both in terms of finances and time to do any repair work (there is always something, even with the perfect car), then I would stick with your 1.9TD. You have done a lot with that car and spent a lot of money on it, money you probably wont see back if you should sell. Plus you know your car and not the other one ...

Since its the 90bhp version I would stick with yours, performance will be very similar and economy will be slightly better but that doesnt justify the change totally. Yes the HDi is quieter and has a very different nature about it but is that reason enough?

Perhaps if it was the 110 then there might be more reason to change, as your gaining quite a bit of performance.

If your 1.9TD is a good one and your happy with it, just keep it

Exactly my thinking Chris! which is why i decided against it I drove mine yesterday whilst i was still deciding and i love the agricultural sounding Xud and there was no way i could drop down from a car that i know so well and have always wanted.It's driving very nicely and won't need anything major doing in a good few years and that will only be a timing belt and waterpump change.

I'm going to get myself a rotary instead and spend some decent time trying to get the bodywork up to a good standard

Dave