type approved cat or not?
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type approved cat or not?
Im looking at getting a new cat for the XM, i tried Citroe just for a laugh and oh how i laughed so i looked online, i can get a non type approved cat for £80 which is cheap, maybe too cheap, i can get a type approved one for £130, i guess i wnat to know what are the real differences between type and non type approved cats, am i likely to get a better made product or is the monolith just bigger and so less restrictive in the approved type? your thoughts on this are much appreciated.
And yes i did make a decat pipe but for all the talk you hear of removing cats releasing previously caged horses it made no difference whatsoever other than being slightly noisier so i do want to keep the cat now.
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And yes i did make a decat pipe but for all the talk you hear of removing cats releasing previously caged horses it made no difference whatsoever other than being slightly noisier so i do want to keep the cat now.
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XM Prestige PRV6 92
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
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There is no more Horses on a N/a 2.oi to release is there??
I couldnt find the 130 that my first XM was meant to have...
I think this Cat business is more effective on Multi valve engines... 16v and 24v rathen then 8v low reving units..
Paul
I couldnt find the 130 that my first XM was meant to have...
I think this Cat business is more effective on Multi valve engines... 16v and 24v rathen then 8v low reving units..
Paul
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
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A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
Thats because your 2.0 didnt have 130bhp, it had 118bhp because it was magnetti (spits):roll:
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Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
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Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
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2010 Peugeot 207 SW 1.6 8v HDi 161k and rising - x 71
Really???
Was it only 118bhp?? I didn;t think it was that power full...
Its strange really Dean, Ive noticed this on 8v HDi cars, Ive heard rumers that removing the 8v Cat makes them a bit more lively.. I dont find this, as Ive got a de-catted hdi 110, and half the time it feels like a 90bhp... were mums Y reg Xantia HAS got a cat and its much more lively and quicker!!!
I reckon the De catting only works on multi valve engines as I said above.
Paul
Was it only 118bhp?? I didn;t think it was that power full...
Its strange really Dean, Ive noticed this on 8v HDi cars, Ive heard rumers that removing the 8v Cat makes them a bit more lively.. I dont find this, as Ive got a de-catted hdi 110, and half the time it feels like a 90bhp... were mums Y reg Xantia HAS got a cat and its much more lively and quicker!!!
I reckon the De catting only works on multi valve engines as I said above.
Paul
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project
A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
Yes i read but what are the actualy differences in type and non type approved? if they are designed to meet tighter noise limits or are longer lasting then it may be worth the extra dosh, i understand our cars are too old but why do they offer them as an option to such old cars (ie the 8v XM?)xmexclusive wrote:Non type approved exhaust components become an automatic MOT failure from next Jan on recently manufactured cars. Not going to worry us XM owners.
John
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XM Prestige PRV6 92
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
I dont think it works at all, i took the cat off my Rover, thats a twin cam 16v and it made not one bit of difference.citroenxm wrote:Really???
Was it only 118bhp?? I didn;t think it was that power full...
Its strange really Dean, Ive noticed this on 8v HDi cars, Ive heard rumers that removing the 8v Cat makes them a bit more lively.. I dont find this, as Ive got a de-catted hdi 110, and half the time it feels like a 90bhp... were mums Y reg Xantia HAS got a cat and its much more lively and quicker!!!
I reckon the De catting only works on multi valve engines as I said above.
Paul
I watched a program about it (so it must be true ) they tested 4 totaly different cars with and without cats and the most power gained was 1bhp, most done nothing, i think the only time removing them works is if you are running big power from a small engine otherwise everything is sized accordingly anyway, looking at the exhaust carefully it seems the headers and silencers are far more restrictive than the cats.
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XM Prestige PRV6 92
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
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I know what your thinking Robert, its 92 and its registered 26 days too late for that
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XM Prestige PRV6 92
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
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Drat!!
Get one of these instead of a cat.
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/194898400.htm?ca=19_s
A nice Carb Xm, it even has a grey dash!!
And heres another one!!
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/185695607.htm?ca=19_s
I want one!
Get one of these instead of a cat.
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/194898400.htm?ca=19_s
A nice Carb Xm, it even has a grey dash!!
And heres another one!!
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/185695607.htm?ca=19_s
I want one!
1990 XM 2.1 Turbo SD
1991 BX 16 TGS Auto
1992 ZX 1.6 Aura Auto
1994 Xantia 2.0 16V VSX
2008 C5 2.7 Exclusive
1991 BX 16 TGS Auto
1992 ZX 1.6 Aura Auto
1994 Xantia 2.0 16V VSX
2008 C5 2.7 Exclusive
very french farmer arent they, the first one looks rather tidy actualy.
Bit more expensive than a cat though arent they Robert is this how you ended up with the fleet you have............................
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Bit more expensive than a cat though arent they Robert is this how you ended up with the fleet you have............................
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XM Prestige PRV6 92
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
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But they don't need cats, so you'd save in the long run
Now this really is magnifique!!!
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/218672411.htm?ca=19_s
Now this really is magnifique!!!
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/218672411.htm?ca=19_s
1990 XM 2.1 Turbo SD
1991 BX 16 TGS Auto
1992 ZX 1.6 Aura Auto
1994 Xantia 2.0 16V VSX
2008 C5 2.7 Exclusive
1991 BX 16 TGS Auto
1992 ZX 1.6 Aura Auto
1994 Xantia 2.0 16V VSX
2008 C5 2.7 Exclusive
Na its a MK2..............
Good point, my cat has lasted 20 years at £130 a pop so £6.50 a year, it would only take 100 years to break even if i bought a carbed one
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Good point, my cat has lasted 20 years at £130 a pop so £6.50 a year, it would only take 100 years to break even if i bought a carbed one
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XM Prestige PRV6 92
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
Talbot Express Autotrail Chinook 89
Mitsubishi L200 Trojan 14
Xantia Activa 95, sold (missed)
Service Citroen is awesome, it shows me pictures of all the parts i used to be able to buy............
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Get this instead, its even better than the carbed cars!
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/217569697.htm?ca=19_s
The 2.1 Normally aspirated diesel!! In fact this would be ideal for Peter N
http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/217569697.htm?ca=19_s
The 2.1 Normally aspirated diesel!! In fact this would be ideal for Peter N
1990 XM 2.1 Turbo SD
1991 BX 16 TGS Auto
1992 ZX 1.6 Aura Auto
1994 Xantia 2.0 16V VSX
2008 C5 2.7 Exclusive
1991 BX 16 TGS Auto
1992 ZX 1.6 Aura Auto
1994 Xantia 2.0 16V VSX
2008 C5 2.7 Exclusive