S2 Xantia V6 - Apologies in Advance

gadgetgricey · Unread post by **gadgetgricey** » 16 Apr 2011, 19:58

Well finally had a bit of time this afternoon to do some work.

"P" clips all fitted and both pipes now secure. Have put a little mark on the connector so can keep my eye on it when I do start using. (also keeping a 12mm spanner in the car, just in case

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Fitted the expansion tank off the breaker car, and did a bit of a codge job on the extra pipe, until the "seal/block" arrives from Citroen.
However now not certain if the temp sender unit works as did not move, but then only ran the car for less than five mins.

Not a drop of LHM left the connection, so may be on to a winner. (But dont want to get my hopes up)

Swapped the air filter bracket over... awaiting delivery of PUG 406 air box.

Jobs for tomorrow:

1) Try and fix the horn, as totally dead. Hoping the unit in the passenger wing is at fault, as the its had a small bump there as the foglight was smashed. Hopefully a quick fix to swap the horn off my breaker, but knowing my luck.
2) Fan Motor not working. Wondered if it was the issue with the ignition switch, so went to check if the heated rear window was working

. Where is the heated rear window switch?????? Must be going blind, as can see everything else, but that switch.

Any pointers/advice would be great as always. If only just to tell how I turn the heated rear window on.

Thanks again

- Dave -

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 16 Apr 2011, 20:17

Excellent stuff Dave

Fingers crossed the mystical unscrewing union is now a thing of the past...

Horns can die from a bump and also, they get covered in crud where they are. Check the connector as a lot of current flows....

The heated rear screen switch is on the end of the wiper stalk, where you'd find a horn push on the opposite side on a MK1. 'Tis is silly pace to put it, just as the horn is on a MKII....

There is a relay that operates the blower down in the driver's footwell. Search out a long and detailed thread by David Hallworth who had exactly the same problem on his HDi. It turned out to be a feed to the relay...

gadgetgricey · Unread post by **gadgetgricey** » 16 Apr 2011, 20:42

Found it cheers:

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... ht=#256739

- Dave -

citrov6 · Unread post by **citrov6** » 16 Apr 2011, 21:00

Hopefully you fixed it, but on your first drive keep checking it, it went after 40 mins driving on 3 occassions, seemed fine at the start of the journey and idling.

Needs a replacement fan, I have the dead one here.

gadgetgricey · Unread post by **gadgetgricey** » 16 Apr 2011, 22:03

citrov6 wrote: Needs a replacement fan, I have the dead one here.

Rez,

Where is the fan motor located?? Any idea if the one out of my series 1 2.1TD will fit. (It also has air con)

Cheers

- Dave -

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 16 Apr 2011, 22:08

Yes Dave..

The S1 with Air Con motor WILL work..

Its under the dash, Passenger side... pull out the carpet trim on the underside of the dash and over to the left is the motor.. it has 3 screws holding it up...

Paul

gadgetgricey · Unread post by **gadgetgricey** » 17 Apr 2011, 14:20

I must be doing something wrong???

1) Blower motor swapped and now all working, 10 min fix

2) Horn not working??

Firstly what an absolutley stupid place to site something. Luckily my garage has an incline to get in so parked the front wheels at the top so could gain access relatively easily.

Spent an age trying to remove the connections, but they finally gave in. Tested for voltage and nothing showing. So then thought I'd test the horn with a direct feed off the battery. Nothing, not even any voltage showing ??????

Only then realised that the connections to my volt meter were not fully home.

Checked the connections to the horn again, and both are showing 12V all the time, even with engine off ???????

I was assuming that the 12V only went to the horn, when the button was pushed.

Over to you.......

Thanks again

- Dave -

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 17 Apr 2011, 17:32

S2 cars work differently i think. When press the horn on the air bag you sbould clearly hear a relay clicking when u do... U dont get.that on S1 cars... However having 12v there should work the.horn....

Strange one this...

gadgetgricey · Unread post by **gadgetgricey** » 17 Apr 2011, 19:07

Any ideas where/which is the relay.

Wondered if its a combination of knackered horn, and stuck relay.

Thinking if I remove the relay, that should make the 12V feed stop. Then hopefully just a new relay and set of horns to fix.

Hoping to get the car to the MOT station in the week.

Cheers

- Dave -

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 17 Apr 2011, 19:10

I'll dig out a wiring diagram in a bit Dave... That'll show it in all it's detail...

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 17 Apr 2011, 19:11

Have you press the horn in the car and listened for a click??

Ive no idea where it is... the only problem I had on an S2 once was the multi switch behind the steering wheel that also carries the Air Bag signal and radio controls button signals..

Sorry Dave, I cant be more usefull.... just useless..

Paul

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 17 Apr 2011, 19:14

citroenxm wrote: Sorry Dave, I cant be more usefull.... just useless..

Paul

Behave yourself and get a grip... You must have overdosed on Newport Pagnell air yesterday...

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 17 Apr 2011, 19:15

Ah jim... Only managed to get home.. Today i have the most awfull stinkey cold in nose and head and feel absolutley crap!

Paul

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 17 Apr 2011, 19:20

citroenxm wrote:Ah jim... Only managed to get home.. Today i have the most awfull stinkey cold in nose and head and feel absolutley crap!

Yep, that's our air for you, bloody awful stuff... Now you know why I seem to have a permanent cold

The sooner I can retire and get out of this god-forsaken part of the UK the happier I'll be.

Hope you're better soon Paul

Otherwise we'll have to send this:

Dave, apologies for hijacking your thread like this....

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 17 Apr 2011, 19:34

Dave,

Here's the horn circuits:

Horn Schematic Circuit

Horn Harness Diagram

Horn Locations Diagram

Sorry for the poor quality, MK2 diagrams are printed on recycled bogroll

One potential troublespot is that the signal from the horn push in the steering wheel that operates the relay travels down the airbag/radio controls rotary coupling in the steering column.. They're not the most reliable of components...

I've also known a situation where in replacing a steering wheel, the operative has forgotten to reconnect the plug on the horn switch...

Hope that helps nail down this one Dave...