Am I stupid or WHAT!?

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 01 Nov 2009, 21:29

I tell you, I SOOOO want to write to haynes and tell them how unbelevable UN ACURATE and rubbish their publications are!!

Why am I moaning?! Because Ive been trying all bloody morning to split a 1995, M reg 2.oi Turbo engine from its auto box...

What the hell, remove the plug from the rear of the block to gain access to the tourque converter bolts!! Im dammed if I can find one! I had the auto box in the air, on its back, engine standing on the crank pully YES LITTERALLY with the gearbox in the air! I couldn;t bloody find one, I removed the fly wheel cover, and can get a spanner on the bolt, but every time I tried to undo the bolt the spanner just pulled itself off at an angle! I NEED to get a socket on it, BUT wooo ho, theres no Blydi room.]

I gave up, and decided the only way Im gonna do it, is to get my hoist back and lift the engine up, drain what oil is left in it, and drop the sump off to get a blydi socket on the bolts!

Useless blydi books, how the hell can people prepare them for a Job when they cant get it right!!

Anyway, rant over! Im not asking for help, just sharing my frustration with you all

Rant over!
Have a good evening!

Paul

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 01 Nov 2009, 21:41

Is there not a half-moon plate on the bottom of the gearbox to allow access to the TC bolts Paul?

It should not need the sump removing...

I know what you mean about the BoL though. I never look at it now, well, the only useful thing in it is the comprehensive list of codes for electrical items...

Not called the BoL (Book of Lies) for nothing

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 01 Nov 2009, 21:48

Nope!

I can get to them via the Flywheel cover area, but my spanners just go sideways off the bolt head when I apply force! So I will have to use a socket, but of course the sump is in the way, I thought I was missing something so EVEN got a floodlamp to get a good light on the block but NOPE!

Starter motor house gap doesn't even go far enough down to reveal the bolts!

Paul

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 01 Nov 2009, 21:52

Well, you boys will go on lovin' these stupid behemoth autoboxes...

And

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 01 Nov 2009, 21:53

The cars auto, so its staying as an auto!

P

deian · Unread post by **deian** » 01 Nov 2009, 22:01

andmcit wrote:Well, you boys will go on lovin' these stupid behemoth autoboxes...

And

Nothin wrong with autoboxes And, I would assume you've driven an auto, but was it an auto-adaptive, (that worked correctly).

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 01 Nov 2009, 22:09

Just because I have loads of auto Citroens doesn't mean I like them!
Just evidence that I'm a glutton for punishment like the rest of you guys!

BTW Deian, my signature on club-xm should give you some clues:

On road:
90 Xm 2.0i man saloon
93 Xm 2.0i TCT man saloon
93 Xm 3.0 v6 24v man
95 Xantia 2.0i Activa
95 Xantia 2.0i Activa
95 Xantia 1.9TD Sx man estate
98 Xantia 3.0 v6 24v Exclusive auto
99 Xantia 2.0i Activa

Off road:
Some Gs's, Cx's, Xm's + Xantiae

Guess which one is to all intents and purposes dead and unlikely to
work again anytime soon - yep, that's right the Xantia 24v AUTOADAPTIVE.
The box is fine, just doesn't want to damnedwell start...

Godknows why, battery went dead and I'm now locked out by the
transponder immobiliser. Nice whilst it lasted but less than a year
down the line it looks like the fun is over.

Andrew

Deanxm · Unread post by **Deanxm** » 01 Nov 2009, 22:30

Hi Paul

Your right there is no plug but there is a hole (not the half moon underneath) at the back of the engine where the bell housing overhangs the block i got in there with a socket without any hickups from the engine side.
There is three bolts to undo but im sure you now know this? other than Torque converter trouble how is the engine swap going?

D

deian · Unread post by **deian** » 01 Nov 2009, 22:32

andmcit wrote: Guess which one is to all intents and purposes dead and unlikely to
work again anytime soon - yep, that's right the Xantia 24v AUTOADAPTIVE.
The box is fine, just doesn't want to damnedwell start...

Godknows why, battery went dead and I'm now locked out by the
transponder immobiliser. Nice whilst it lasted but less than a year
down the line it looks like the fun is over.

Andrew

Well i do hope you know what NOT to do to it... scrap it for £2k. Ewww!

Sometimes the aerial for the transponder inside the car near the steering column works up, it happened once for me when I had my V6. Worth a try.

lexi · Unread post by **lexi** » 01 Nov 2009, 23:20

Some guys will know the Haynes book "build your own sportscar".

Many years ago while builing the 7 type, myself and of course many others before me noticed that there were so many errors in the book it wasn`t real.

On phoning Haynes they said they had never heard of the errors before

Ten minutes later the author of the book Ron Champion phoned me from Spain and explained some of the mistakes. He was on the phone for twenty minutes and we ended up talking about old Landrovers as we both had them

Unread post by **xantia_v6** » 02 Nov 2009, 06:49

citroenxm wrote: can get a spanner on the bolt, but every time I tried to undo the bolt the spanner just pulled itself off at an angle!

I know you didn't ask for help, but I think you are either using the wong spanner (thin heads need a spanner with good teeth to the edge of the ring, and for this you want a straight spanner with (almost?) no angle on the ring), or the assembly is not stable enough for you to apply enough sideways pressure to keep the spanner on.

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 02 Nov 2009, 07:53

Deanxm wrote:Hi Paul

Your right there is no plug but there is a hole (not the half moon underneath) at the back of the engine where the bell housing overhangs the block i got in there with a socket without any hickups from the engine side.
There is three bolts to undo but im sure you now know this? other than Torque converter trouble how is the engine swap going?

D

There isn't dean! Promise! Ill take some pictures and show you.. but there blydi isn't hence my rant!

Cheers
Paul

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 02 Nov 2009, 07:59

the other opption may be get an old spanner and grind the face of the ring away till there is no tapper on entering the spanner,

regards malcolm

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 02 Nov 2009, 10:07

Ah Malcolm, thats a good point, thinking about it, the nut heads are a bit shorter in height then normal bolts... Ill look into that.. Thanks

Paul

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 02 Nov 2009, 13:25

thats ok Paul thats (-expletive removed-) were here for ain tit,

you could maybe do me a turn as a BXF member Bob Craske is buying a brand new old stock dizzy from me for one of his BX's, and he lives on YNYS MON.

TEA HE just jesting

regards malcolm

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