SAVED FUEL

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 21 Jul 2009, 08:14

we didnt use much fuel on our way home from Godmanchester on sunday,

as we had a ride home in/on a recovery truck from around junction 7 of the M11, and yes i do still have all 9.5 fingers,

near to junc 8 every now and then the car would lundge quite sharply, like it was cutting out,

so we crawled along hard shoulder about 30/40ish hazards on,

made it to the next service's opened the bonnet could not see anything wrong, no air in fuel line and the primer was stiff sorry firm,

had a cupper and started on our way and got to the exit of the service's, as we pulled away at the lights onto the roundabout she cut out, managed to get two wheels onto the grass verge so not to be in anyones way,

called the RAC by the time they turned up the car would start and seemed to run normaly, so he said best continue on our way, we decided to keep off the motorways and headed down the A1198 and onto the A414, the car then started lundgeing again, called RAC again and the same guy came out and got us to follow him to a tesco's car park to awhait a recovery truck,
and we awhait and awhait and awhait, when it finaly turned up at atound 11 pm it did not have a tow hirtch to pull our trailer, so we awhait and awhait and awhait till arond 1 am monday mornning till the next truck turned up,

got home at 3 in the morrning absaloutly cream crackerd,

i think the fault was/is down to driving through the floods we had down hear a couple of weeks ago, must have got into the imobaliser/ wireing/electrics, even though i havent looked at it yet,

im sure as we had both lights on the key pad comming on together whilst the car was playing up,

will report my findings once i have pluged her in

regards malcolm

DickieG · Unread post by **DickieG** » 21 Jul 2009, 17:03

Hmm, you're doing well at visiting Citroën rallys

red_dwarfers · Unread post by **red_dwarfers** » 21 Jul 2009, 18:01

Dear oh dear

Not good at all Malcolm, just one more time in a breakdown truck to go then the 3 times are done

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 21 Jul 2009, 19:38

yes Richard
but at least this time i walked away still with 9.5 digitts TEA HE,
as i could not find a D with its lid up,

Richard dose the wire unplug from the rear of the DIESEL pump, as im sure its just got water up in there, i took off the black plastic cover from the rear of the pump, and some wet crystely substance fel out from under the plug for the imobaliser

no Kev we have just started a new year so i have two more trcovery truck rides to go,

regards malcolm

DickieG · Unread post by **DickieG** » 21 Jul 2009, 21:24

citronut wrote:Richard dose the wire unplug from the rear of the DIESEL pump, as I'm sure its just got water up in there, I took off the black plastic cover from the rear of the pump, and some wet crystaly substance fell out from under the plug for the immobilizer

I've just taken a look at a spare pump and as far as I can see the armour plating has to be removed before you can pull that plug off.

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 22 Jul 2009, 07:49

Oh dear Malcolm

Yes, the armour will have to come off to get to the immobiliser module. The module itself connects via the black plug on the side of the pump but this won't help much.

These pictures show what is under the armour.

best will be to get a diesel specialist to de-armour the pump for you and then bypass the immobiliser totally by running an ignition-switched 12V feed direct to the stop solenoid. There is a suitable 12V supply available in the wires to the black plug but at the moment I cannot recall which one although a voltmeter will soon find it.

De-armouring is not an easy job or one to be taken on lightly. I'll not attempt it for anything!

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 22 Jul 2009, 07:53

thanks for that Richard i love you to,

i was kinda hopping i could just pull the plug off and clean it up,

i should no theres no such thing as a quick fix,

regards malcolm

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 22 Jul 2009, 19:02

well i got stuck in thisafternoon into the job of removeing the imobaliser from the rear of the fuel pump on my R reg 1.9TD,

undun the allan and torques bolts, then took a chunck out of the turret around one of the shear bolts to gain access with a small cold chizel to undo said bolt, in the proccess of stricking it with an nammer it loosend one of the other shear bolt so i could undo this with my 9.5 fingers, TEA HE

one more shear bolt to get at beneath a piece of webbing on the imobaliser arrmour,

the guy next door to my work shop is bringing in his dremal type tool tommorow,

then the imobaliser will be off without removeing the pump,

i will try to take some picys and then try to post them on here

regards malcolm

red_dwarfers · Unread post by **red_dwarfers** » 22 Jul 2009, 19:16

Just remember to make sure no shards of metal end up in the combustion chamber

Unread post by **myglaren** » 22 Jul 2009, 19:56

And avoid removing any more fingers

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 24 Jul 2009, 19:37

well i have sortted the little bbbbbb out,

took the imobaliser off the back of the pump in situe after removeing the armour, and fed a switched live staight to the fuel shut off solanoid

regards malcolm

Xaccers · Unread post by **Xaccers** » 24 Jul 2009, 19:56

Don't forget to update your insurance company if you've disabled the immobiliser.
I've just told mine that Cassy's has been done and it made no difference to the policy, but now if she gets nicked etc they can't use that as an excuse to not pay out.
So next time I'm at the scrappy I'll be looking for a MK2 tray, and removing Cassy's keypad.

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 24 Jul 2009, 20:11

Malcolm, brilliant news

Are you going to dry out/clean up the old immobiliser and retry it? After a good old drying it'll most likely be OK.

Xac wrote:Don't forget to update your insurance company if you've disabled the immobiliser.

Good point Xac. Must do that on my V6. I want a MK2 tray for that one too...

XantiaMan · Unread post by **XantiaMan** » 24 Jul 2009, 20:33

CitroJim wrote:Malcolm, brilliant news Are you going to dry out/clean up the old immobiliser and retry it? After a good old drying it'll most likely be OK.

Xac wrote:Don't forget to update your insurance company if you've disabled the immobiliser.
Good point Xac. Must do that on my V6. I want a MK2 tray for that one too...

Its about 6 quid, DickieG posted the part number on one of my posts last year.

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 24 Jul 2009, 23:36

no Jim as it's a sealed unit (prbably sealed moulded in resin)and no sign water has/could get in, so not sure that's what caused the problem in the first place,
but she's back up and running and it was definatly imoballiser related in one way or another

regards malcolm