clubxm forum down?

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 06 Apr 2009, 10:10

minijetXM wrote: I'm still unsure as to where we stand with regards to the content. CitroJim said that he takes a back up of the forum database every day, but would we be (legally) able to upload it to a new forum (if necessary), or does everything belong to Chris?

The way I see it is this: I'm the custodian of the data only and hosting and the continuity of that hosting by way of backups is my job as technical admin. I don't own the data, only care for it. Therefore, as I see it, I (or nobody else who may have access to that data) may upload it to another forum or host except with the express permission of the owner of the data.

If Club-XM wished for a second, spare technical admin to look after the data, I'd be happy to do so.

minijetXM · Unread post by **minijetXM** » 06 Apr 2009, 12:27

So, if Chris ever did decide to pull the plug on ClubXM, we would have to start again with a clean sheet.

Ciaran · Unread post by **Ciaran** » 06 Apr 2009, 12:36

If he was unwilling to pass the database onto someone else, then yes.

Ciarán

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 06 Apr 2009, 12:41

Ciaran wrote:If he was unwilling to pass the database onto someone else, then yes.

If it ever came to that, I think he'd be happy to pass over ownership of the data. This very forum was once another forum and ownership of the database changed hands.

I tried to post up my latest 4HP20 stuff the other day but could not get access to the Late XM part of the forum to do it. It seems the "back-doors" only work for certain parts.

That's a good sign as it means the basic database is repairable and the real data seems to be intact.

Ciaran · Unread post by **Ciaran** » 06 Apr 2009, 12:58

If it ever came to that, I think he'd be happy to pass over ownership of the data. This very forum was once another forum and ownership of the database changed hands.

I wouldn't like to speculate on what Chris, the person hosting the site might do, but I can only go on what he has indicated previously. On a post in the forum he previously stated that the site and its contents 'belonged to' him, and that the users had no rights to such. Whether this means he'd ever be willing to pass on the data to someone else if it came to it, I'm not sure.

I tried to post up my latest 4HP20 stuff the other day but could not get access to the Late XM part of the forum to do it. It seems the "back-doors" only work for certain parts.

That's a good sign as it means the basic database is repairable and the real data seems to be intact.

Yes from the SQL output it would appear the failure is occurring when it tries to select the list of moderators for each forum from the appropriate table, which is necessary for the display of the main front end list of forum headers.
It would appear, as you say, that the main posts table is intact, which is good sign indeed. Even if the mods / headers table is trashed, it should be possible to reconstruct those manually by looking up FIDs in other tables etc, the same wouldn't be feasible with actual post data.

As an aside, apparently Chris is now back and working on the problem, so here's hoping its a quick fix

Ciarán

Deanxm · Unread post by **Deanxm** » 06 Apr 2009, 21:26

Just though i would post Noz's post from CXM explaining the situation for all those that cant find their way in at the moment.

norrie
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Hi all,

Sorry for not getting in touch sooner. I couldn't get back in until Ciaran showed us the back door route. I have tried a mass email but it didn't work.

The problem is that the messages table of the SQL database has crashed. Choosing the repair option does nothing. I have spoken to Chris and he's working on the problem as we speak. Please be patient. The data is not lost but it will prove difficult to migrate to another forum software package. The best hope is that the table can be repaired.

Searching around the net for the specific error message reveals many posts blaming the problem on MYSql5. There are a few patches posted around various websites. We'll be trying a few of those out in due course.

Since the site is entirely non-commercial we can only afford to spend frre time on it at weekends and evenings. This of course makes any maintenance and repair slower than would otherwise be the case.

Do not abandon hope.

Cheers

Norrie cool.gif

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 06 Apr 2009, 21:52

Fantastic!!!!

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Citroenmad · Unread post by **Citroenmad** » 06 Apr 2009, 22:00

I saw that over on club-xm, nice to see we will soon have it back.

Unread post by **myglaren** » 08 Apr 2009, 22:07

jorgy wrote:
myglaren wrote:
jorgy9 wrote:

ps is this Mylene Farmer on the photo?
It most assuredly is.

Nice to see her recognised.
Not one of the faces/persons you forget easily eh?...sigh.....
G

Assuredly not!

Unread post by **Peter.N.** » 09 Apr 2009, 12:20

Hi folks

Just got back from holiday and was very surprised to see that the site was still down. As I mentioned before, most of the information providers are still available so if the worst came to the worst we could rebuild it if necessary, but let's hope it doesn't come to that.

Peter.N.

Deanxm · Unread post by **Deanxm** » 09 Apr 2009, 12:57

My fingers are crossed Peter

Hope you had a good holiday though.

D

steelcityuk · Unread post by **steelcityuk** » 10 Apr 2009, 23:54

myglaren wrote:
jorgy wrote:
myglaren wrote:
It most assuredly is.

Nice to see her recognised.
Not one of the faces/persons you forget easily eh?...sigh.....
G
Assuredly not!

So now I know who the Avatar is, can we have a clue about your username's origins?

Steve.

Unread post by **myglaren** » 11 Apr 2009, 00:40

"Myglaren" was the name of a popular film when I first moved to Sweden and the Myglare was the main character in the film.

The name became synonymous with slightly creepy types who spent there lives lurking around in cellars, avoiding work wherever possible and being in general a drain on society.

So, not a particularly endearing individual.

It is an odd coincidence that Mylène and Myglaren have very similar pronunciations. Only discovered the wonderful Mylène a couple of years ago, on her 45th birthday, while looking for "Dead Can Dance" songs on YouTube.

The clip was Sans Logique set to a DCD song. I thought that she was a rather odd bird and had to look deeper, glad I did.

Far more than you ever wanted to know

minijetXM · Unread post by **minijetXM** » 11 Apr 2009, 11:29

I'm surprised that anyone has managed install an avatar. It keeps rejecting mine.

I've tried reducing the size, using different file extensions, loading it direct, and through photobucket..........

Perhaps it didn't like my picture

I notice that Dean had a go and had as much success as me

Deanxm · Unread post by **Deanxm** » 11 Apr 2009, 12:50

Yeah your right i did have a go when i first joined but if i remember correctly on CXM you had to reach X amount of posts before it would allow an Avatar, i dont know if its the case here so i just gave up after the 2nd attempt.

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