Xantia hdi project

nick · Unread post by **nick** » 04 Apr 2009, 17:02

From service.citroen.com, for the VIN number you quoted it gives :

Vehicle family XANTIA II
AS RPO No 08862 U7 2 0006
Guarantee Start Date 22/03/2001
Engine serial number 10 DYCS 4009604
Gearbox serial number 20 LE84 0583706
OPB A01T
NRE e2*98/14*0180*03
General information
Product type CAR
Commercial marque/Component type CITROEN
Vehicle family XANTIA R
Silhouette 5 DOOR ESTATE
Trim level SX PACK CLIM
Engine DW10ATED TURBO DIESEL
Transmission BVM5
Paint type METALLIC PAINTWORK
Body colour PAINT - CRIMSON
Interior trim type PESSOA VELVET "FZ
Upholstery colour "FZ"
Gearbox (Characteristics) BVM ML5T
Engine (Type) EW/DW
Other badge 2 0 HDI
Other badge, " Misc. " NO ADDITIONAL BADGE
Badge HDI

Vehicle characteristics
Trim level SX PACK CLIM
Paint type METALLIC PAINTWORK
Body colour PAINT - CRIMSON
Interior trim type PESSOA VELVET "FZ
Upholstery colour "FZ"
Gearbox (Characteristics) BVM ML5T
Speedometer drive TACHO TORQUE 25X20

Fuel supply-Engine
Engine DW10ATED TURBO DIESEL
Diesel filter water detector WITHOUT DIESEL FILTER WATER DETECTOR
Fuel DIESEL FUEL
Emissions standard (engine) EEC 2000 DEPOLL (ENGINE)
Pre-filter ASSEMBLY WITHOUT PRE-FILTER
Engine (Type) EW/DW
Catalytic converter 3 PARTS CATALYST
LPG fuel tank WITHOUT LPG TANK
Crankcase gas circuit heating W/O HEATER CASING GAS CIRCUIT
Regulation 70/221 (Fuel leaks) WITH NON-RETURN VALVE
EOBD Self-Diagnosis System WITHOUT "EOBD" AUTO-DIAGNOSTIC
Vehicle Technical Depollution L4 VEHICLE TECHNICAL DEPOLLUTION
Fan 2 FANS , 2 RATES , IMPROVED
Fuel Vapour retrieval WITHOUT PETROL VAPOUR RECUPERATION
Injection associated variant MOUNTING BOSCH

Gearbox-Driveshafts
Transmission BVM5
Gearbox (Characteristics) BVM ML5T
Final drive ratio REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 16 X 65
Speedometer drive TACHO TORQUE 25X20
Wheel style STEEL WHEEL
Seal, wheel end WHEEL-SIDE JOINT DIAM 20
Seal, differential end REAR AXLE SIDE JOINT JB3A
Gearbox type (type approval) GEARBOX ML I TYPE
Tyre (Size, Type) 205X60X15 H TYRES
Wheels fitted 6" RIM ROAD WHEELS
Wheel (Type) STEEL WHEELS
Gearbox Type GEARBOX ML

Suspension-Steering-Brakes
ABS WITH ABS BRAKES
Rear anti-roll bar REAR ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 23
Front anti-roll bar FRONT ANTI-ROLL BAR DIAM 23
Hydraulic stop WITHOUT HYDRAULIC STOP
Rear suspension sphere RR SUSP SPHERE DESMOPAN TALC
Active anti-roll W/O ACTIVE ANTI-ROLL
Front suspension sphere FR SUSP SPHERE DESMOPAN TALC
Main accumulator sphere TALC DESMOPAN ACCUMULATOR SPHERE
Active Suspension WITHOUT HYDRACTIVE SUSPENSION

Bodywork-Exterior fittings
Horns HORNS-HARMONY
Rear spoiler ASSEMBLY WITHOUT REAR SPOILER
Wheel embellisher (Style) BACCARAT STYLE 8 HOLES 15 INCHES
Washer jet WINDSHIELD WASHER JET W/O DEFROST
Ext. rearview mirror comp. function WITHOUT INDEXED REAR VIEW MIRROR
Engine bay soundproofing BULKHEAD + BONNET SOUND-PROOFING
Windscreen wiper INTERMITT AUTO FR WIPER BLADE
Headlamp wiper W/O HEADLAMP WIPER
Front panel blank SEMI-CLOSED GRILLE + OPEN BUMPER
Bumper BODY COLOUR FRONT/REAR BUMPER
Front foglamp FRONT FOG LIGHTS
Exterior rear view mirror (Driver side) HT EXT RRVW MIRROR EL INT CONTR
Exterior rear view mirror (Passenger side) OUTSIDE PASS RRVIEW MIRROR HEATED ELEC CNTRL
Exterior accessories RRVIEW MIRROR CASING BODY COLOUR
Sun roof FIXED ROOF
Glass (Appearance) TINTED
Window (Type) ATHERMAL WINDSCREEN

Interior fittings
Interior trim type PESSOA VELVET "FZ
Anti-theft alarm ALARM ULTRASONIC+PERIMETER STD
Rear head restraint JOINTED REAR HEADREST
Front head restraint JOINTED FRONT HEADREST
Rear seat SEPARATE FOLD BACK BENCH SEAT
Rear seat armrest WITH REAR ARMREST
Rear seatbelt REAR 3-POINT 3 INERTIA REEL SEAT BELT
Front seatbelt PYROTECHNIC SEAT BELT WITHOUT ALARM
Speed graduations GRADUATION MPH
Radio equipment FEED AERIAL RECEIV FRT SPEAKER TWT REAR SPEAKER
Driving position RIGHT HAND DRIVE
Remote control REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
Additional heating WITHOUT ADDITIONNAL HEATING
Dashboard equipment FACIA PANEL WITHOUT WOOD
Misc. int. lamps MAP READING LIGHT DRIV+PASS
Door trim DOOR PANEL WITHOUT WOOD DECOR
Tachometer (signal connection) REV COUNTER CALC
Loudspeaker MOUNTING 6 LOUDSPEAKERS
Radio controls REMOTE RADIO CONTROL
Screening (Blind, Side sunblind, sunroof) WITHOUT SUN VISOR SCREEN
Front passenger seat height control WITHOUT SPACER PASSENGER SIDE
Driver seat control DRIVERS FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTROL
Front passenger seat control PASSENGER FRT SEAT MANUAL CNTR
Driver seat adjustment WITHOUT DRIVERS LUMBAR ADJUSTMENT
Front passenger seat adjustment W/O PASSENGER LUMBAR ADJUSTMNT
Int. upholstery elements NOT WEAVED ROOF TRIM
Front seat armrest DRIVER SEAT ARMREST
Compact Disc WITHOUT COMPACT DISC
Satellite Navigation System WITH TRAFFIC INFO SYSTEM
Rear window lift ELECT CONTR RR WINDOW LIFTER
Driver's window lift SEQUENTIAL DRIVER'S ELECTRIC WINDOW
Courtesy mirror DRIVER+PASSENGER WITHOUT LIGHTING
Oil gauge OIL LEVEL WARNING INDICATOR
Heating element NON HEATED SEAT
Front lateral airbag DOUBLE FRONT LATERAL AIRBAG
Footwell lighting DRIVER'S + FRONT PASS'S FOOTWELL LIGHTING
Passenger airbag PASSENGER AIRBAG
Electric window (Operation) DRIVER'S + FRONT/REAR PASSENGER'S STD ANTI-PINCH
Airbag Deactivation MANUAL AIRBAG DEACTIVATION
Radio receiver "RD1" RDS COMPACT DISC AUDIO SYSTEM
Air conditioning AIR CONDITIONNING
Cruise control WITHOUT SPEED CONTROL
Driver's seat height control PARALLEL DRV HEIGHT ADJ
Storage (others) LOWER SETTING BOX FR AND RE DOORS
Load space storage W/O BOOT TIDY
Radio housing RADIO HOUSING WITH FLAP
Carpet CARPET F470
Lighting timer ADJUSTABLE TIMER
Exterior temperature (Scale) EXT TEMP INDICATOR CELSIUS
Switch ELECTRONIC ANTI-THEFT KEY
Water temp indicator WATER TEMP INDIC +RED TELLTALE
Floor mat WITH MAT
Locking control CENTRAL DEAD LOCKING
Window (Type) ATHERMAL WINDSCREEN
Steering wheel RUBBER STEERING WHEEL 4 BRANCH
Fan 2 FANS , 2 RATES , IMPROVED

Electrical
Alternator ALTERNATOR 150 AMP
Horns HORNS-HARMONY
Battery BATTERY L2 400
Remote control REMOTE CONTROL ASSEMBLY
Starter motor STARTER MOTOR CL 5
Special lighting WITHOUT PARTICULAR LIGHT
Misc. int. lamps MAP READING LIGHT DRIV+PASS
Ext. rearview mirror comp. function WITHOUT INDEXED REAR VIEW MIRROR
Cen. locking rem control frequency 433 92 MHZ HETERODYNE
Footwell lighting DRIVER'S + FRONT PASS'S FOOTWELL LIGHTING
Front foglamp FRONT FOG LIGHTS

Component manufacturers
Injection associated variant MOUNTING BOSCH

Miscellaneous
Country type (GB)
Special specification DEPOLLUTION SUP
Atmospheric conditions NORMAL ATMOSPHERE
Driving position RIGHT HAND DRIVE
Radio headphone socket WITH ACCESSORIES SOCKET
Traffic side LEFT HAND DRIVE
Side impacts DOOR WITHOUT REINFORCEMENT
Surface conditions GOOD TERRAIN
Exterior accessories RRVIEW MIRROR CASING BODY COLOUR
Emergency warning triangle WITHOUT WARNING TRIANGLE

lexi · Unread post by **lexi** » 04 Apr 2009, 18:41

Wow! Thanks Nick. Only thing I can add to that is side impact airbags on front seats.

addo · Unread post by **addo** » 04 Apr 2009, 22:19

Better equipped than my "SX" wagon!

f00lzz · Unread post by **f00lzz** » 05 Apr 2009, 04:25

No door reinforcement!! I thought all the 'later' Xantias had it.

DickieG · Unread post by **DickieG** » 05 Apr 2009, 09:04

In my experience the list on Service Citroën isn't paticularly accurate as I've found numerous inaccuracies on it when looking at my Xantia's.

f00lzz · Unread post by **f00lzz** » 05 Apr 2009, 13:20

Had my drivers side door panel off this morning to do some wiring checks (see post on power windows malfunctioning) and was relieved to note that I do indeed have side impact reinforcement bars... go figure

lexi · Unread post by **lexi** » 05 Apr 2009, 17:10

Ok Guys. A few strange things on this car.

First off I will check with Swansea on Mon to see what this car really is.

Secondly : This car has Bendix calipers at the front.

On stripping out a caliper today I found this.

So we have a pad for a 110hdi and discs of 265mm put on the car.......wrong!

The pads I have bought are the same as the ones that are worn in this manner. My new discs are 288mm. But they are 35mm thick and vented.

Now even with caliper wound and pushed back beyond the dust seal it don`t look like they will go in there. I don`t want to bruise the goods in case they have to go backto GSF. What to make of it? Is this an HDI 90? . If so what brakes would be in it? 255mm and smaller pads? OR another 288mm disc but a thinner non vented one?

Any light shed on this would be appreciated.

DickieG · Unread post by **DickieG** » 05 Apr 2009, 18:54

The chassis number and engine code on your car designate it as a 110 bhp. The pads and discs should be of the largest available for a Xantia so 288mm is correct.

DickieG · Unread post by **DickieG** » 05 Apr 2009, 19:53

V6 and HDi 110 bhp Xantia's use the same disc's.

lexi · Unread post by **lexi** » 05 Apr 2009, 19:56

Well Super you ar correct on the dimensions. My mistake . 288mm and 28mm thick. These discs are as heavy as my old Patrol 4.2d

lexi · Unread post by **lexi** » 05 Apr 2009, 20:08

Isn`t it amazing to think that someone been driving for a year with this setup. The guy is a mate of mine. He always complained that the brakes were crap. Those little discs were working so hard that they have hair cracks in them through overheating.

This has transfered through to the pads and they are cracking too. What would be the outcome if car had been involed in a fatal and towed away for inspection........void insurance methinks.

MOT man showed me the braking performance on the gauge. You could see it fading to about 25percent.

DickieG · Unread post by **DickieG** » 05 Apr 2009, 20:31

Your car isn't alone on such bodges, a couple of years ago I checked the front brakes on a friends AX and found that one side had the correct size disc but the disc on the other side was way too small with the pads overhanging the disc and pushing against each other

addo · Unread post by **addo** » 05 Apr 2009, 21:49

Pretty disappointing to find stuff like that on a car; it's a sure sign of low-IQ mechanicking. My wagon had a dealer-fitted replacement accumulator sphere. It was completely the wrong one.

My suspicion, is that the bodgers damaged your original calipers and fitted a cobbled up arrangement to cover their work.

lexi · Unread post by **lexi** » 06 Apr 2009, 11:25

Are the HDI 90 calipers the same as 110 ones?. That is : do they have the bolt at the bottom but do not accept the wide vented discs and meaty pads?. Have we established if 110 hdi calipers are or can be Bendix?

Anyone got a pic of a 110 caliper ?

Thanks guys.

DickieG · Unread post by **DickieG** » 06 Apr 2009, 17:07

lexi wrote:Are the HDI 90 calipers the same as 110 ones?. .

HDi 90 calipers are smaller than 110 ones.

If you are uncertain of what engine you have in your car, on a HDi 110 there will be a second intake pipe running between the engine and the intake pipe from the air filter.