Is this (photo) the Xantia clutch clip?

Napoleon · Unread post by **Napoleon** » 23 Mar 2009, 15:32

I did post this under another forum, but not sure it's the right place.. anyway, is this the clutch clip that breaks? The pedal on the 1.9 has hit the floor, and I need to know if this is the problem, and what to ask for at the dealer's.

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 23 Mar 2009, 15:58

Looks like it Tim,

This is a whole one..

Get one from a main Steaker as the GSF-supplied ones often come (as this one in the picture) does not come with the all-important metal clip whereas those from a main stealer do.

Odd as both carry the same part number.

The metal part of the clip is important and this needs replacing as this often bends and distorts beyond use when the plastic bit snaps....

The picture also shows the part number. 2128 21

Evodad · Unread post by **Evodad** » 23 Mar 2009, 16:19

When mine has broke (twice!), it's the metal clip that's broken I taken the plastic part out with it.

Over time I think the metal fatigues, spreads out & allows the cable to pull out.
When I did the second fix I made an aluminium "U" shaped piece that now fits around the metal clip, held together with a small nut & bolt & holds it snugly round the shoulder of the cable end.

red_dwarfers · Unread post by **red_dwarfers** » 23 Mar 2009, 16:30

I picked up a clutch clip from Citroen to keep in stock and I seem to remember them charging me for the metal clip

Napoleon · Unread post by **Napoleon** » 23 Mar 2009, 17:21

Thanks Jim, yes, I got it now - it's just like that.

Can you confirm that it is indeed this thread:

http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... hp?t=21201

is the one that explains how these parts are replaced?

ps, these two parts cost £11.40, inc vat.

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 23 Mar 2009, 17:34

Napoleon wrote: is the one that explains how these parts are replaced?

That's the one Tim

Hope the car has not been driven with a duff clutch. Third gear synchro gets very agitated over clutchless-changes and can show it's displeasure by becoming very crunchy

Have fun! Replacing a clutch clip is a sort of Xantia initiation ceremony

Honestly, as long as you're pretty small of stature, flexible and the bolt is the "right way" it's not too bad. Just take care not to get trapped in the car as if the drivers door shut whilst you are head-down in the footwell, you're trapped as you can't reach the handle and in a Xantia footwell, nobody can hear you scream

Seriously, make sure SWMBO is nearby and is aware of the trapping potential of this job.

A good torch and Blu-Tak is your friend, along with a 13mm ratchet spanner...

Napoleon · Unread post by **Napoleon** » 23 Mar 2009, 18:34

Haha! I'm 6'3".

I'm wondering if I should get the car towed back here to home or leave it in the car park and do the job there.

We do have breakdown cover.

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 23 Mar 2009, 18:52

Ohh, I'm sure Corporal Jones will tow you back in his butcher's van Cap'n.

Just make sure Private Frazer is not around though, you don't want him shouting "We're doomed!" whilst you do the job..

As long as you don't mind making a spectacle of yourself, do it in the car park...

As you're tall, mind your feet on the headlining otherwise you may have some explaining to do for SWMBO when she sees footprints up there

Seriously, I'd do all to avoid moving it and it's a perfectly valid reason to have it recovered home if you don't fancy doing the job in public as it were...

Napoleon · Unread post by **Napoleon** » 24 Mar 2009, 17:44

My body is white... why?

Because all the blood in now in my head! Arghhhhhhh!

I have spent an hour in the footwell, with my feet up against the the rear window - I am not kidding.

I have managed, but I don't know how, to extricate this:

I am a bit confused as to the origin of the chite circular piece, as it's not part of the broken plastic piece. Notice in the next picture how the metal clip itself is broken:

I could not get a ratchet/closed spanner on the nylon nut. This was hell. The spanners kept falling off, and I suppose that's where the blutak would have helped, Jim.

On re-assembly, should I reverse the bolt? Did everyone else do this job one-handed?

The circular plastic thing???

Tim

(I feel like I've been beaten up).

Napoleon · Unread post by **Napoleon** » 24 Mar 2009, 17:49

ok, I referred to the exploded diagram, Jim. The circular piece is a bush/support for the spring.

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 24 Mar 2009, 17:50

The circular part goes on the pedal pivot that the securing bolt goes through, and the RETURN spring sits over it.... Its an absolute fiddle to get the return spring back in the correct place to hold the pedal down...

Later cars from about 1997 P reg, have a MUCH better return spring that runs parralell to the pedal... and it assists holding the pedal in the up postion to press the spring clip into position...

Paul

Napoleon · Unread post by **Napoleon** » 24 Mar 2009, 17:52

Got it, Paul, thanks.

Any thoughts on reversing the bolt?

Evodad · Unread post by **Evodad** » 24 Mar 2009, 18:26

When I did mine, I tied the spring & circular bush in place with cotton & then cut the cotton when every thing was installed but not tightened up.

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 24 Mar 2009, 18:55

This, for me, was one place Blu Tak came in handy but yes, it is a game to get that lot all in place and keep it there.

As for reversing the bolt Tim, I think you'll find it'll only go back in easily one way. Whichecver proves easiest really...

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 24 Mar 2009, 19:10

Napoleon wrote:Got it, Paul, thanks.

Any thoughts on reversing the bolt?

Yes ALWAYS!

I do every time! Push the bolt in from the heater side, then with the nut in the OPEN END part of a spanner with some tape over one side to hold the nut and stop it from falling out tighten the bolt up into the nut...

USE the open ended side because if yur bolt is slightly too long and goes upto the brake pedal BUT DOESNT meet it, you wont get yur spanner out again....

Good show! GOOD LUCK!!

Rgds
Paul