White van/R5gtt tales

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Brigsygtt
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White van/R5gtt tales

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This is copied off another forum as its too long to start again! One of my weekend toys.

Something ive built over the last 8 weeks, Totally standard 1.9 derv when i bought it. Fancied a toy for summer so slipped my spare gtt engine/box in.

Just got it on the road yesterday. ill let the pictures do the talking :)

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Engine Spec :-

Standard r5gtt engine/box, frontera 2.5 td fmic, ktec 2.5" side exit exhaust, grp n clutch.

To come t28 turbo & 20lb boost, looking for approx 180hp :)
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97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
Brigsygtt
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Got my omp strut brace powdercoated blue & fitted

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Me new t28 turned up last week, cossie 60trim t3 cover & .49ar t25 exhaust housing, 360 thrust bearing & 31 actuator

T28 compared to stg1 hybrid.
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Anyway got it fitted & it turns out to be a bag of s**t, smokes like you wouldn't believe. Oil pissing into the exhaust, that bad it was causing the oil pressure to drop on the engine by 10lb.

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I think its down to a reconditioned core & poor tolerances on the turbine piston ring.

Its going back tomorrow, pissed me off as i was looking forward to upping the boost this weekend. To be honest im in two minds whether to tell them to stick it & get my money back, i need it to be reliable might go for a brand new garrett gt series. Refitted my old t2 thats done about 100k hard miles and everything is good again.

On the plus side when i took it for a run even though it was like the red arrows behind me it went very well even at 12lb boost, so when i finally get a good unit should see some decent power. Also the exhaust is mega loud on boost with the bigger rear housing on the turbo, definately not track friendly well over the 100db mark lol.
97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
Brigsygtt
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Made it down to fcs & back no problems, running really well touch wood. Here's a few pics i took whilst there.

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97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
Brigsygtt
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Joined: 12 Jan 2009, 18:19
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Went out lastnight & staarted setting the fuelling/boost up, goes quite well. Had to make a catch tank quickly so an empty 1ltr bottle of robinsons has been used :D

Didn't go too mad at first, set it to a bar which revealed the afr was boderline lean, Have altered the jetting today & its a lot richer now on wide open throttle so 20psi should be no problem.

A pic of the tools for the job, a must for any turbo car owner if upping the boost, innovative motorsport lm1 & mechanics stethoscope bolted to the head.

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Wideband lambda sensor on downpipe

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Pic of the new turbo fitted, spot the pikey catch tank.

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97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
Brigsygtt
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Joined: 12 Jan 2009, 18:19
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Been to pod & back this weekend, 14.6@89 on slicks, 14.8@91 on road tyres. 600 miles, 15 hard runs down the strip & its never missed a beat, really pleased :D

The engine is making good power, shame it ain't as aerodynamic as a car, id be into the 13s no bother. Still loads of fun to drive though!

A few pics..

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Vids of it in action



97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
Brigsygtt
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Well its been on the road for a while now, have used & abused it with no problems at all, quite chuffed really. Only had a couple of issues, Front shockers totally shagged, bouncy as you like & brakes worked ok, but fade pretty bad after hard braking. Outer cv joints were both a bit clicky so changed both shafts too.

Taking it on track this weekend at Mallory park, so splashed out & fitted a new set of top adjustable koni yellows up front & mintex 1144 pads, feels miles better to drive now, braking & handling/ride improved 100%.

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Also fitted the heatshield on the inlet manifold, to see if it cures the slight hesitation that it has after idling for a while when hot, probably fuel evaporating. Fitted some reflective heatproof tape on the underside, whether this will help or not i don't know, was cheap so gave it a try.

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97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
Brigsygtt
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A few of pics from Mallory park

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Only had a couple of sessions on track, got black flagged for oil leaking onto the exhaust out of the sump seal so need to sort that. On the plus side it handles & stops very well, just like driving a car on track really, great fun :)

As the motor has been bullet proof bar oil leak since fitting it going to tune it a bit more. Next step is a cam & vernier, piper valve springs & a couple of engine breather mods.
97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
Brigsygtt
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Just had a set of genuine clio williams 15x7j speedline alloys blasted/powdercoated anthracite at romax so i can take the turbines off for winter.

Picked them up cheap'ish, Half polished/corroded alloy, paint flaking, super bald/slashed tyres, all were unkerbed/straight though.

Before pics...

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After pics....

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Quite pleased with them. Wasn't 100% whether the shape of the alloys would suit the van but imo they look good. Nice & low maintenance compared to polishing the outer lip on the turbines every week to stop corrosion.

Fitted 195/45/15 toyo proxes 4rf, cheap enough for full set new off ebay. Seem pretty good now there scrubbed in a bit. Only need a new set of centre caps to finish them off, will have to wait considering the price £16 ish each!
97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
Brigsygtt
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Had it on the rolling road at motorscope, 161 hp @ fly, 146lb torque. They said its the first ever van on their rollers lol.



Expect a few big updates to this thread in the next few weeks, will be pulling the engine out to fit my hot cam & give it a freshen up. Got all the parts ready just waiting for slightly better weather.
97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
KP
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Unread post by KP »

Lots of alloys there, those blade ones are off an R19 16v or is it a R21Turbo?

I miss my old R5GTT used to be a member of the RTOC as well :)

Keep up the good work as it looks nice :)
Brigsygtt
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The turbine alloys are off a ph1 clio 16v. Summer wheels off my gtt, got them refurbed 4 years ago, nightmare to keep on top of in winter the diamond cut edge corrodes really fast.

Been a member off rtoc for years now, since 2002! What was your username on the boards?
97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
KP
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Kingpleb was the username i had, was based in warrington and had an R19 16v Chamade mk1 in my last days but had an R5 GTT Phase2 rust bucket for a while ebfore i killed it with soem overheating of the throttle linkage leading to WOT on a hot summers day and thus killed the engine :(
Brigsygtt
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Aye mate i remember you. Get yourself another gtt bought :wink:
97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
KP
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Joined: 10 Jul 2006, 12:11
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Nah after the GTT with its stage2 turbo i moved onto an R19 Chamade and it was much better for moving about and the handling was sublime, it really did corner on rails and with a set of new tyres was even better till i ceased the bottom end :( Was a J reg so had no cat either :D
ACTIVE8
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Interesting read, nice project. 8)

Are you going to have a "How is my driving" sarcastic comment on the back,
which gets smaller as you read the details, and states you'll have to catch me to read this properly, and you won't, so Bye Bye GTi.
ACTIVA

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